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  • Help!! Proving my link to "fame"........

    I never quite got round to working out my link to someone famous, i could just contact someone who most of us know and ask what it is but where's the fun in that??

    Anyone fancy a challenge and a bit of a google and snoop to help link the 3rd marriage for my 2xgrt grandfather to a rellie of Nelson?
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/50125734@N06/

    Joseph Goulson 1701-1780
    My sledging hammer lies declined, my bellows too have lost their wind
    My fire's extinct, my forge decay'd, and in the dust my vice is laid

  • #2
    Go on, then

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    • #3
      Ooh Mary, can your good run hold out for long enough? :D

      Apparently the link to Nelson is via the Waller family. I checked Ancestry a while ago and there is a tree but the tree owner hasn't replied to messages. I also have them listed on a tree and corrected the OWT details today (deaths were recorded as USA)


      Maria Waller b11/11/1821, Holkham, Norfolk.

      She married George Hay 8/12/1871 at the Register Office, District of Walsingham, Norfolk. Recorded as a spinster, father noted as Charles but no occuption given.

      George and Maria are buried together in Wells next the Sea, Norfolk, George (a coastguard) died first and Maria is named in his will.

      Presumably it's a backwards and across connection somehow, i did have a google for trees and pedigree stuff for Nelson but can't find a reference to the Waller surname anywhere.
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/50125734@N06/

      Joseph Goulson 1701-1780
      My sledging hammer lies declined, my bellows too have lost their wind
      My fire's extinct, my forge decay'd, and in the dust my vice is laid

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      • #4
        I should add that Maria appears in some GR trees, again i have tried to contact the tree owners with little success, it seems the majority of the info is based on one tree and folks don't want to divulge anything, plus i have deleted myself from there now anyway.
        http://www.flickr.com/photos/50125734@N06/

        Joseph Goulson 1701-1780
        My sledging hammer lies declined, my bellows too have lost their wind
        My fire's extinct, my forge decay'd, and in the dust my vice is laid

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        • #5
          That's a surprisingly late marriage for Maria.

          Have you got them on any of the censuses, to save duplicating research you've already done?

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          • #6
            Possible baptism for Maria:

            County: Norfolk
            Place: Holkham
            Church: St Withberga
            Register Number: 236
            Date Of Birth:
            Baptism Date: 11 Nov 1821
            Forename: Maria
            Sex: F
            Father Forename: Charles
            Mother Forename: Susan
            Father Surname: WALLER
            Mother Surname:
            Abode :
            Father Occupation: Labourer
            Notes:
            File Number: 2034

            FreeReg Search Results

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            • #7
              George was married to his 2nd (previous) wife in the 1871, i think Maria was a char woman or FS in one of the large houses around the area of Walsingham but haven't pinned her down as yet.
              http://www.flickr.com/photos/50125734@N06/

              Joseph Goulson 1701-1780
              My sledging hammer lies declined, my bellows too have lost their wind
              My fire's extinct, my forge decay'd, and in the dust my vice is laid

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              • #8
                Possible marriage for Maria's parents on FreeREG is Charles Waller and Susanna Oxenborow Spooner, 13 Mar 1812 at St Nicholas, Wells-next-the-Sea, groom's parish given as Holkam.
                KiteRunner

                Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh"
                (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")

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                • #9
                  I think this one is Maria in the 1871

                  - Ancestry.co.uk
                  http://www.flickr.com/photos/50125734@N06/

                  Joseph Goulson 1701-1780
                  My sledging hammer lies declined, my bellows too have lost their wind
                  My fire's extinct, my forge decay'd, and in the dust my vice is laid

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Possible marriage (IGI, extracted):

                    Charles Waller
                    Male

                    Marriages:
                    Spouse: Susannah Oxenborow Spooner
                    Marriage: 10 MAR 1812 Wells Next The Sea, Norfolk, England

                    I would guess this might be your connection, because a very quick search brought up a Horatio Nelson Spooner. Haven't had time to investigate yet, though.

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                    • #11
                      One of those weird entries on the IGI that doesn't say either extracted or submitted:

                      Susan Oxenborrow Spooner
                      Female

                      Event(s):
                      Birth:
                      Christening: 15 MAR 1793 Wells Next The Sea, Norfolk, England

                      Parents:
                      Father: William Spooner
                      Mother: Margaret Oxenborrow

                      Can't find that baptism on FreeReg.

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                      • #12
                        61 for Maria? bottom of page (alternative name entered in the index is Walton)

                        - Ancestry.co.uk
                        http://www.flickr.com/photos/50125734@N06/

                        Joseph Goulson 1701-1780
                        My sledging hammer lies declined, my bellows too have lost their wind
                        My fire's extinct, my forge decay'd, and in the dust my vice is laid

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                        • #13
                          Yes, it is on FreeREG, date of birth 14 Mar 1793.
                          KiteRunner

                          Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh"
                          (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")

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                          • #14
                            51 for Maria?

                            If these are all her it seems she prefered working for older folks.

                            - Ancestry.co.uk
                            http://www.flickr.com/photos/50125734@N06/

                            Joseph Goulson 1701-1780
                            My sledging hammer lies declined, my bellows too have lost their wind
                            My fire's extinct, my forge decay'd, and in the dust my vice is laid

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Siblings of Susan listed on FreeREG: Charlotte 1789, Edward 1791, Elizabeth 1795 and William 1798.
                              KiteRunner

                              Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh"
                              (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")

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                              • #16
                                Marriage of Susan's parents: John Spooner of Burnham Westgate and Margaret Oxenborow, St Nicholas, Wells-next-the-Sea, 5 May 1789. (From FreeREG). Witnesses Charlotte Oxenborow and Elizabeth Shepard.
                                KiteRunner

                                Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh"
                                (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")

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                                • #17
                                  '41 seems to be the same place but different household, Maria is top of page, remainder of household is on previous image

                                  - Ancestry.co.uk
                                  http://www.flickr.com/photos/50125734@N06/

                                  Joseph Goulson 1701-1780
                                  My sledging hammer lies declined, my bellows too have lost their wind
                                  My fire's extinct, my forge decay'd, and in the dust my vice is laid

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                                  • #18
                                    Letter from Nelson on the Victory to a Lieut Waller in 1804:

                                    Nelson, the New Letters: The New Letters - Google Book Search

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                                    • #19
                                      That Horatio Nelson Spooner on the IGI is supposed to be born in Plymouth, Massachusetts, so he's probably not connected. Unless there's another one?
                                      KiteRunner

                                      Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh"
                                      (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")

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                                      • #20
                                        Yes, just seen that, although I wouldn't absolutely rule him out.

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