My Great Grandfather, William Carroll (b abt 1857) came over from Ireland and settled in Liverpool. From the Census records I can trace and confirm he was living in West Derby, Lancs. (Liverpool) but I am only able to confirm this after his marriage to Winifred Dean (e) 12 Jan 1879.
I have a positive trace on the 1881,91 and 1901 census all in the same area of West Derby all state born in Ireland. My mother started the tree 20 years ago and asked family for details. They say that he was from Mayo. My dad still stands by that so it has to be a reasonable pointer. I have no idea what Williams mother was named.
William seems to just appear and my first document is his marriage to Winifred. Searches of pre 1881 census have not revealed any exciting possible or link to his parents. Maybe I am missing the obvious?
This is what I have. Marriage Cert 12 Jan 1879, William Carroll, 24yrs, Bachelor, Labourer, 7 Rock Mount, West Derby. Father, William (Deceased) Labourer. Winifred Dean, 19yrs, spinster, Glasshouse Lane, West Derby, Father, James Dean, Labourer. William signed ‘the mark of’ indicating he could not write. Witnesses, Thomas Dean (brother of Winifred) and Mary Woods who lived next door to Winifred. I have to presume at this time that Williams father was born Ireland.
The only possible link I have found was on the 1861 Census to the Royal Engineers in Brompton, Kent. William aged 5 and his father William aged 39 with wife Bridget and 2 other children born at sea, St Helena and the East Indies. I feel this is an unlikely match? A William on a School ship berthed near Liverpool in 1871 is doubtful due to William’s job and the fact he could not write.
They went on to have at least 8 children. William died 5 October 1930, aged 73. The death cert offers no clues. His last job was a Fireman in the Borax Works, Old Swan, Liverpool.
So.... where to now? I have sent for an Electoral Roll of 7 Rock Mount for 1878 (Just prior to marriage) to see if any other Carroll’s are about. I have visited his Catholic grave, nothing of note. Can anyone think of any other research I can do to try and trace relatives of William who may have travelled with him or the name of his mother? I feel that any searches in Ireland may throw up possibles and just make me want to guess.
Any ideas from people who have had similar issues would be gratefully received.
I have a positive trace on the 1881,91 and 1901 census all in the same area of West Derby all state born in Ireland. My mother started the tree 20 years ago and asked family for details. They say that he was from Mayo. My dad still stands by that so it has to be a reasonable pointer. I have no idea what Williams mother was named.
William seems to just appear and my first document is his marriage to Winifred. Searches of pre 1881 census have not revealed any exciting possible or link to his parents. Maybe I am missing the obvious?
This is what I have. Marriage Cert 12 Jan 1879, William Carroll, 24yrs, Bachelor, Labourer, 7 Rock Mount, West Derby. Father, William (Deceased) Labourer. Winifred Dean, 19yrs, spinster, Glasshouse Lane, West Derby, Father, James Dean, Labourer. William signed ‘the mark of’ indicating he could not write. Witnesses, Thomas Dean (brother of Winifred) and Mary Woods who lived next door to Winifred. I have to presume at this time that Williams father was born Ireland.
The only possible link I have found was on the 1861 Census to the Royal Engineers in Brompton, Kent. William aged 5 and his father William aged 39 with wife Bridget and 2 other children born at sea, St Helena and the East Indies. I feel this is an unlikely match? A William on a School ship berthed near Liverpool in 1871 is doubtful due to William’s job and the fact he could not write.
They went on to have at least 8 children. William died 5 October 1930, aged 73. The death cert offers no clues. His last job was a Fireman in the Borax Works, Old Swan, Liverpool.
So.... where to now? I have sent for an Electoral Roll of 7 Rock Mount for 1878 (Just prior to marriage) to see if any other Carroll’s are about. I have visited his Catholic grave, nothing of note. Can anyone think of any other research I can do to try and trace relatives of William who may have travelled with him or the name of his mother? I feel that any searches in Ireland may throw up possibles and just make me want to guess.
Any ideas from people who have had similar issues would be gratefully received.
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