Reigning years help please.

[Olde Crone Holden]

I have come across some information which gives the year in the old style of "53d of Henry III" etc.

I don't know what search term to google for this - does anyone have a calendar converter site they can direct me to, please, or do I have to work it out the long way, lol.

Thanks - I'm sure I used to have this somewhere but fear it died along with my old pc.

OC

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Don't know, sorry!

His father died 19 October 1216 if that helps........

*invites neighbours in for finger and toe count*

[Phoenix]

The trouble with Regnal Years is that they start on the first day of the reign - so it's different for every monarch. I usually grab Terrick Fitzhugh's dictionary of genealogy. I think Herber filched it in his Ancestral Trails. Just checking online....

[Phoenix]

Regnal years does seem to throw up lots of useful hits.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Is that 53rd day?

Erm.....reign began 19th Oct, so that's 13 days in Oct
30 days in Nov

That's 43

and ten days in Dec

10th Dec 1216???

[Olde Crone Holden]

Whose father, Merry? My ancestor's? Or King Henry III?

Makes me larf a bit...this is a really worthy academic article but I notice that later dates are given in proper English. Perhaps the experts couldn't work it out either, pmsl.

OC

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

lol King John, Henry's dad!

[Olde Crone Holden]

Hmmm..it's followed by

56th Henry III

which under Merry's system would be 3 days later. It can't be though, because I know from other sources that this would be around 1272 (56th Henry III) or later.

OC

[TrevorFranklin]

Henry III reigned from 18th Oct 1216
His coronation took place 28th Oct 1216 in Glos Cathedral
He had a second coronation in Westminster Abbey on 17th May 1220

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Ok, so 56th YEAR of his reign. He was one of the long ones, wasn't he?

1216 + 56 = 1272

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Oh, Henry died in 1272.....

[TrevorFranklin]

He died Nov 1272

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

So what does d stand for?

[Phoenix]

Historians don't iunderstand about dates, OC. Queen Elizabeth died 24 March 1602/3. I've always felt that the initial reaction to James I must have been like that to Mrs Thatcher after the winter of discontent. I said that to my then history tutor: new monarch, new year and she hadn't a clue what I was talking about.

Surely, though, in the period you are talking about, everything is "third day after the feast of St Useless" nonsense?

[Phoenix]

53rd year of rein [or even reign, lol!]

[TrevorFranklin]

I think you read 53rd, 56th etc as
In the ##th year of

So your original 53rd would be 1216 plus 53
So 1269

[Olde Crone Holden]

Perhaps a typo in the article then as it definitely says

"In 53d Henry III"

followed by

"in the 56th Henry III".

However, the dates you have given sound right and fit with other info I have from a different source.

(I had no idea Henry III reigned so long, blush blush)

Thanks everyone!

OC

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Was he the one who died from eating too many peaches, or was that another one?

[Olde Crone Holden]

*stares at Merry in bewilderment*

How do you know my ancestors liked peaches? Had they been invented back then?

Ooops, no, you mean the King, sorry!

OC

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

How do you know my ancestors liked peaches?

I bet most of them did!!