Really need help with this one she is driving me bonkers.
Susan/Esther Joel
Cannot find her before 1861 although she is on other census from 1871 to 1891 as born in abt 1842 Whitechapel Middlesex
She is married in 1857 in a Church calling herself Susan Joel ,age full, daughter of Coleman Joel a General Dealer, to Abraham Rose (Cap Maker)
She is then married again in 1860 in a Synagogue calling herself Esther Joel, age 21 ,daughter of Coleman Joel a Dealer, to Abraham Isaac Guttantag (Cap Maker)
This is the same man .
1861
Have her calling herself Esther with Husband Abraham Rose a Cap Maker ,and one Son Hyam D living in Court Street Whitechapel
1871
Have her calling herself Susan with Husband Abraham Rose and Children
Hyam now 11
Isaac 6
Charles 4
John 2
Miriam 10 months livng in 238 Mile End Road Whitechapel
1881
Have her calling herself Susan with Husband Abraham Rose and Children
Alfred born abt 1861
Arthur born abt 1865
Chas born abt 1866
John born abt 1869
Miriam born abt 1870
Lydia born abt 1872
Cordelia born abt 1874
living in 57 Oakley Street Islington
1891
Have her calling herself Susan with Husband Abraham Rose and Children
Charles 25
John 23
Miriam 21
Lydia 18
Cordelia 17
Found Abraham Rose Death in 1914 aged 83 formerly Silk Hat Maker he died in a Almshouse in Mile End daughter Minnie Macks informant I believe her to be Miriam ??
But cannot find Susan/Esthers Birth or Death
Did get a Death Cert for a Susan Rose 1900 but she was the Widow of a Walter Rose Shoemaker and another of a Susan Rose 1907 but she was the Widow of a John Rose Furniture Dealer
I know this is very long winded but any suggestions would be gratefully received !! as long as they arent rude
Thanks
Susan/Esther Joel
Cannot find her before 1861 although she is on other census from 1871 to 1891 as born in abt 1842 Whitechapel Middlesex
She is married in 1857 in a Church calling herself Susan Joel ,age full, daughter of Coleman Joel a General Dealer, to Abraham Rose (Cap Maker)
She is then married again in 1860 in a Synagogue calling herself Esther Joel, age 21 ,daughter of Coleman Joel a Dealer, to Abraham Isaac Guttantag (Cap Maker)
This is the same man .
1861
Have her calling herself Esther with Husband Abraham Rose a Cap Maker ,and one Son Hyam D living in Court Street Whitechapel
1871
Have her calling herself Susan with Husband Abraham Rose and Children
Hyam now 11
Isaac 6
Charles 4
John 2
Miriam 10 months livng in 238 Mile End Road Whitechapel
1881
Have her calling herself Susan with Husband Abraham Rose and Children
Alfred born abt 1861
Arthur born abt 1865
Chas born abt 1866
John born abt 1869
Miriam born abt 1870
Lydia born abt 1872
Cordelia born abt 1874
living in 57 Oakley Street Islington
1891
Have her calling herself Susan with Husband Abraham Rose and Children
Charles 25
John 23
Miriam 21
Lydia 18
Cordelia 17
Found Abraham Rose Death in 1914 aged 83 formerly Silk Hat Maker he died in a Almshouse in Mile End daughter Minnie Macks informant I believe her to be Miriam ??
But cannot find Susan/Esthers Birth or Death
Did get a Death Cert for a Susan Rose 1900 but she was the Widow of a Walter Rose Shoemaker and another of a Susan Rose 1907 but she was the Widow of a John Rose Furniture Dealer
I know this is very long winded but any suggestions would be gratefully received !! as long as they arent rude
Thanks
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