1901 census lookup request

[TrevorFranklin]

I have only one record I need to see from the 1901 census, so it is a waste to be forced to purchase 500 credits just to see it.

Is anyone willing to look up the residence and people with one.

Herbert H Pursglove, age 10. Born in London and is on the census in Newport monmouthshire.

The whole of his family were in their home in London, so I want to find out who he was with to clear up a puzzle.

Many thanks

Trev

[Elizabeth Herts]

He's down as a nephew:


Alfred Degardins 58
Alfred H Degardins 22
Madelina Degardins 55
Herbert H Pursglove 10
Harriet Wynn 17
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4957; Folio: 161; Page: 14.

Alfred was Vice Consul for France!

[Elizabeth Herts]

Alfred was born in France and a French subject. Working at home.

Madelina was born in London.

Alfred H. son was a Commercial Clerk and born in Germany, a French subject.

By the way, welcome Trevor - nice to see another Herts. resident!

[Elizabeth Herts]

Alfred Degardins married
Madel(i)ena Caroline Baker
Sept 1876 Newcastle T

[Elizabeth Herts]

1891 Wales Census

Alfred Degarding 48
Alfred H Degarding 12
Madelina Degarding 40
Eliza Jane Lane 17

In Riverside Cardiff. Also Vice Consul for France here. Son given as born in France.

[TrevorFranklin]

Many thanks for such a quick reply.

Now I'm really puzzled.

Henry's mother was Nanetta Phillipa Baker.
She married Frederick Pursglove. Frederick was a Roofing Felt maker.
They are on the 1901, but Nanetta is listed as Martha.

Henry's uncles and aunts were a total of six.
None of which married into the Degardins family
Uncle Albert married Mary Ann Hatley
Uncle Henry married Sarah Annie Dewey
Aunt Emma married John Thomas Tadd
Uncle George died 1893 unmarried
Uncle Arthur married Alice Cavender in 1927
Auntie Mary married William Deedman in 1903

So how is he listed as their nephew??

Any Degardins researchers out there?

Thanks again
Trev

[Elizabeth Herts]

There is a Henry Degardins born in France as a boarder in Highbury Islington on the 1891 census. He is 19 so too old to be their son, but perhaps another connection?

[TrevorFranklin]

Alfred Degardins married
Madel(i)ena Caroline Baker
Sept 1876 Newcastle T

There's the link.

He was the nephew of Madelina, as his mother was Nanetta Phillipa Baker born c1854.

[I live in Hertford area by the way Elizabeth]

[Elizabeth Herts]

I'm glad you found the link, Trevor.

I'm in Harpenden, but we have friends in Hertford.

[Elizabeth Herts]

I love the names - Madelina and Nanetta, very unusual. It also makes them much easier to trace.

[TrevorFranklin]

Herbert's family are buried in Abney Cemetary

Anyone interested, Pursgloves info is online (not entire details)
the three w's pursgloves.talktalk.net

[Elizabeth Herts]

Madelena Caroline Baker

birth 11 Oct 1845
christening 5 Nov 1845 Saint Anne Soho

parents:
JAMES HENRY SAMUEL BAKER
Mother: MARY MAGDALIN

I love the Mary Magdalin part!

[TrevorFranklin]

You couldn't possibly look up 1871 census to see if you could find Madelina's parents?? ;)

[TrevorFranklin]

I donot have a web cam on, so you cannot see what I'm typing.

I can only suggest thay you are a mind reader Elizabeth.

Many many thanks

Trev:D

[Elizabeth Herts]

I'll come back to 1871 as I couldn't find them straight away

However, 1851

Henry John Baker 2
James H S Baker 39
Madalina C Baker 5
Mary Elizth Baker 5
Mary M Baker 33
George Howell 44

James was born in Ashford Shropshire c 1812
He's an Estate Agent
Wife Mary was born in Germany
The baby isn't 5 , but 5 weeks old.

Must go, as OH has cooked dinner and he will go ballistic if I carry on! Back later!

[Elizabeth Herts]

1871

I haven't found the parents, but

Madalina
and
Mary Elizabeth her sister

are both "Assistants"
Madelina as a Governess
Mary as a Teacher

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1328; Folio: 27; Page: 45; GSU roll: 828272
in Kilburn.

[Elizabeth Herts]

Death

Mary Magdalen Baker
Dec 1863 Marylebone 1a 289

So Mum died. I'm not sure about Dad yet.

[Elizabeth Herts]

James Henry Samuel Baker

Married

Mary Magdalena Backmann

Dec qr 1844 St Pancras 1 298

[TrevorFranklin]

no sign of Nanetta Phillipa, to confirm the tie with the family

She was born c1854, so 1861 census?

[Laptop in one hand and dinner in the other LOL]

[Elizabeth Herts]

Where was Nanetta born? Perhaps she was a cousin and not a sister. I think "nephew" could be a very loose term.