1861 look up please

[Cath RJ]

Hi, sorry to ask you all again but please can someone with access to 1861 census look for ROBERT GRAHAM, upholsterer, (and household) born c1832 in Dumfries but now probably in the M/cr. area.
Very many thanks.

[Rachel Scand]

Is this him ... in Manchester married to Agnes ? with 2 daughters

also 2 nephews in household .... surname ? Fallows

click on link below

- Ancestry.co.uk

[JBee]

in Hulme Lancashire

45 Baxter Street, Hulme, Lancs - ward of Medlock Street/Sheet?

Robert Graham 29 upholsterer, b Scotland
Agnes Graham 30 - wife b Scotland
Henrietta? Daughter 7 b Manchester, Lancs
Agnes 11months b Manchester, Lancs
Richard Fellows/Fallows - nephew 11 scholar b Liverpool
Robert Fellows/Fallows - nephew 9 scholar b Liverpool

[Cath RJ]

Thanks JBee & Rachel,
I can now go back to Scotlandspeople to look for marriage to an Agnes. Unfortunately I've a feeling it was before 1854 and all the OPRs I've seen so far don't give parents' details.
Thanks again.

[Rachel Scand]

Might they have married in England ?
Henrietta (aged 7) was born in Manchester and the 2 nephews in Liverpool

I'm having a look at marriages in England ....

[Christine in Herts]

Young Agnes is on the IGI (sadly, no MMN):

AGNES ANN GRAHAM
Christening: 17 JUN 1860 Cathedral, Manchester
Father: ROBERT GRAHAM
Mother: AGNES
Batch No.: C073545

Christine

[Rachel Scand]

It says that Agnes jnr has the initial A (middle name)

I wondered if that might stand for Addison ... as there's a marriage in Cockermouth, Cumbri, Cumberland Agnes Addison is one of the possible spouses 1850 a bit of a longshot


woops typing as Christine posted ...

[Christine in Herts]

There is a marriage of a Robert Graham in Jun Qtr, Cockermouth (25 81).

Unfortunately you have to untangle 8 names, of which one bride is Agnes Addison, who may or may not be Robert's bride.

Christine

:D and I just crossed with you over the Addison match!

[Rachel Scand]

:D and I just crossed with you over the Addison match!

:D I've been trying to tie in the surname of the nephews ... Fallows or Fellows ... no luck so far ...

[Cath RJ]

Thanks Rachel but I think "my" Agnes A. Graham's middle name was Ann - See Christine's IGI ref. as I think she's the right one. I've been down the Cumberland route for my Grahams before but have since discovered they moved mainly from Dumfries to Merseyside.

Just seen your Fellows post. They appear to be the children of an Ann Graham & Richard Fellows, born L/pool. - I've just unearthed some very old notes I'd made previously. There's every chance that Ann and Robert were siblings of my great grandfather but someone has put an ancestral file on IGI with so many mistakes I can't be sure. It doesn't help that my great grandfather's birth doesn't appear to have been registered.

Thanks for trying to help.

[Christine in Herts]

I thought it was only a submission but realise that it's extracted - it might be relevant:

Robert Blair Fallows
Birth: 05 SEP 1860 Titchfield St, Liverpool
Christening: 14 AUG 1862 St Peter'S C Of E, Liverpool
Father: William Fallows
Mother: Alice Fallows
Batch No.: C044135

The same record (no birth address) appears in this batch: P020945

Christine

[Christine in Herts]

There's also:
John FALLOWS
Birth: 02 JUL 1850
Christening: 10 SEP 1850 Saint Peter, Liverpool
Batch No.: P020276

and
David FELLOWES
Christening: 17 JUL 1854 Saint Peter, Liverpool
Batch No.: P020943

Christine

[Christine in Herts]

Just spotted your more-likely suggestion where the bride is née GRAHAM. That would make her a sister of Robert rather than Agnes.

Christine