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Sheila from Down Under
18-06-08, 11:10
Hi ----I am trying to find George H Kite born in Battersea c 1891 but every time I try to bring the 1891 or 1901 census to see if I have found the right George H Kite , there is a fault on Ancestry and it will not show the page. So can some one please look for me please. He married Annie Souter in 1911 in Fullam
Thank you
Sheila 10349

WendyPusey
18-06-08, 11:24
1891 Census he is 10 months old and the son of Martha Kite aged 19 single mother of Battersea.

Can't find him in 1901.

vikki brace
18-06-08, 11:25
it might just be me, but I can't find any likely matches.

Have you got the refs you were trying to look at?

vikki brace
18-06-08, 11:33
There is a marriage in 1898 in Wandsworth between Martha Hannah Kite and Henry Greenfield, they are together in 1901 but no sign of George

Merry Monty Montgomery
18-06-08, 11:37
The best fit for a birth for Martha Kite is Martha Hannah Kite b 1873 in Wandsworth District.

It looks like she married Henry R Greenfield and they are together in 1901 but no George.

Merry Monty Montgomery
18-06-08, 11:37
Oh, snap! lol

Rachel Scand
18-06-08, 11:38
Rats ... shan't bother to add that then !:D

Sheila from Down Under
18-06-08, 11:45
Sorry All I have is his marriage to Annie Souter in 1911 the Elders remember him but that's all + he was born in Battersea
sheila

vikki brace
18-06-08, 11:46
Do you have the marriage certificate for 1911? Does it state any fathers name / occupation?

Sheila from Down Under
18-06-08, 12:04
Annies father is "unnamed " as she was born out of wedlock. and as I said I know nothing about George
Sheila

KiteRunner
18-06-08, 12:07
Sheila, when you say you know nothing about George, do you mean that it doesn't state his father's name on the marriage cert either?

vikki brace
18-06-08, 12:07
So is the space for Georges father blank aswell?

I am just wondering if he named Henry Greenfield as his father.

vikki brace
18-06-08, 12:16
Just looking for his birth reg and the only one I can see for a George Kite c1891 for battersea is

George William Kite
1890 Jul/Aug/Sep
Wandsworth
Greater London, London, Surrey
Vol 1d Pg 533

Sheila from Down Under
18-06-08, 12:22
No I don't know anything at all about George H Kite but his Marriage to Annie who is on my tree ,her mother's name was Frances Amelia Souter , and the step daughter of my Grand father John Fuller

Sheila from Down Under
18-06-08, 12:24
Sorry It is now time to feed the cat and husband and then bed
Good Night
Sheila

vikki brace
18-06-08, 12:26
I think you are going to have to order the acutal marriage certificate to see if there is any mention about George's father.

Nite Nite

Merry Monty Montgomery
18-06-08, 12:30
Just looking for his birth reg and the only one I can see for a George Kite c1891 for battersea is

George William Kite
1890 Jul/Aug/Sep
Wandsworth
Greater London, London, Surrey
Vol 1d Pg 533

This birth reg is 100% the child of Martha Kite, as he died in WW1 (8th Jan 1915) and is on the CWGC site - middle name William, son of Martha Greenfield, formerly Kite.

But the marriage partner for Frances Amelia Souter was George H.

If we are to find out who he is, then we need the father's details and age from his marriage cert.

vikki brace
18-06-08, 12:31
Oh Poop - Well with out the certificate we can't find out any more as George William Kite is obviously a red herring.......:(

oh well off to carry on looking for my Connells

Phoenix
18-06-08, 19:33
If so little is known about George Kite, is anything known about him AFTER his marriage? Are there any photos? Were there any children?

There is a possible scenario where he is illegitimate, his mother can't keep him after his marriage, he is brought up by relatives, strangers or in a home, his marriage doesn't really work and he dies in WW1.

Merry Monty Montgomery
18-06-08, 19:38
Phoenix, I don't think we know he is illegitimate or his age, as I don't think Shelia has the marriage cert.

Phoenix
18-06-08, 19:55
I suspect I'm showing my age here, but I've met or have heard about rellies who married circa 1911. They are in photograph albums, there may be letters etc. I just wonder if Sheila knows anything of George after his marriage, or if the marriage certificate is the only proof of his existence.

Phoenix
18-06-08, 19:57
Sorry, Merry, just reread your post.

Sheila from Down Under
18-06-08, 23:28
Good Morning , Thank you for your help, I'll have to see what else I can find, My Aunt's are sure that his middle name began with an H, but who knows. When I asked, they knew nothing else, they think FTF can perform wonders, well we (you) can most of the time . LOL
Sheila

Phoenix
19-06-08, 00:03
I've never been good at getting info out of rellies, but can you think of cunning questions? Did your aunts meet him? Were there any children? If the wife made more impression, ask about her. (But whatever you do, don't suggest answers. You'll confuse people and they may agree to the most unlikely theories, simply because it's easier than trying to remember what really happened)

Sheila from Down Under
19-06-08, 02:19
Hi Phoenix. I have only been in the family for 18 months /2 years so to speak when I found my BM my Aunts BM's sisters are in there mid 80's so I take what they say with a " pinch of salt " Every thing was "lost " in WW2 I have been told , as they lived in London at the time I can quite beleave it Thanks any way
Sheila

Merry Monty Montgomery
19-06-08, 08:16
There are several George H Kite births around the country, the only London-ish one is this (and he didn't have to come from London, did he?):

Births Dec 1883
KITE George Harvey St. Olave 1d 205

Would anyone remember that his middle name was a surname? (this would more than likely be on the marriage cert, of course!)......You are not allowed to prompt them though!! lol