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    Annie (Anne) Connell born c.1855 Deptford. was my 3rd Great Grandmother, I am trying to sort out her family.

    I have traced her back to 1861 where I have her with her family RG9; Piece: 396; Folio: 46; Page: 45
    John b. 1826 Ireland
    Ellen b.1826 Ireland
    Mary A b.1851 Deptford, Kent
    Julia b.1853 Deptford Kent
    Ellen b.1854 Deptford Kent
    Hague b.1855 Deptford Kent
    John b.1860 Deptford Kent

    by 1871 Ellen is listed as Widow and has 2 new daughters Hannah b.1857 and Margaret b.1859 RG10; Piece: 745; Folio: 84; Page: 19

    I can't seem to find Hannah & Margaret in 1861, and Hague doedn't seem to exist anywhere except on the 1861 census

    Can anyone find them?
    Vikki -
    Researching Titchmarsh and Tushingham

  • #2
    ~~~~~

    ello matey..

    So the Johnsons, are children from Ellens first marriage???
    Julie
    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

    .......I find dead people

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    • #3
      Originally posted by vikki brace View Post
      Annie (Anne) Connell born c.1855 Deptford. was my 3rd Great Grandmother, I am trying to sort out her family.

      I have traced her back to 1861 where I have her with her family RG9; Piece: 396; Folio: 46; Page: 45
      John b. 1826 Ireland
      Ellen b.1826 Ireland
      Mary A b.1851 Deptford, Kent
      Julia b.1853 Deptford Kent
      Ellen b.1854 Deptford Kent
      Hague b.1855 Deptford Kent
      John b.1860 Deptford Kent

      by 1871 Ellen is listed as Widow and has 2 new daughters Hannah b.1857 and Margaret b.1859 RG10; Piece: 745; Folio: 84; Page: 19

      I can't seem to find Hannah & Margaret in 1861, and Hague doedn't seem to exist anywhere except on the 1861 census

      Can anyone find them?
      So where is Ann/e in the 1861??? and if she was born in 1855 she would share the same yr as Hague???
      Julie
      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

      .......I find dead people

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post
        ~~~~~

        ello matey..

        So the Johnsons, are children from Ellens first marriage???
        Hi Hun

        What Johnsons?...........

        Oh heck what have I missed?
        Vikki -
        Researching Titchmarsh and Tushingham

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        • #5
          Sorry Anne is with the family in 1861 but I forgot to add her to the list.

          Anne is shown as age 7, same as Ellen

          Johnsons - looks like they are another family \\ under John jr
          Vikki -
          Researching Titchmarsh and Tushingham

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          • #6
            mmm looks like it, but they are transcribed with the connells... on the other page, but listed below em on the actual image....grr

            ok, yes I saw that Ellen was/is Annie.. duh! cant see a birth for Hague, so is either mistrans as sommat else, OR had died...
            Julie
            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

            .......I find dead people

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            • #7
              Are James and Honora Connell rellies too then?? family next door but one to John/Ellen??
              Julie
              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

              .......I find dead people

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              • #8
                i'm not sure about James & Honora, its possible.

                The anoying thing is I can't find definate birth regs, so ordering certs is proving tricky.
                I have no idea where in Ireland John and Ellen come from.
                the only children I have managed to trace past 1871 is James and Annie, Oh and I know Juila was alive in 1873 as she was one of the witnesses at Annie's wedding
                Vikki -
                Researching Titchmarsh and Tushingham

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                • #9
                  Anne/Hannah could be one and the same have had both names interchangable.

                  Connell could be mis heard as Conner? I know its nothing concrete at mo, but it might have some bearing.....
                  Julie
                  They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                  .......I find dead people

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                  • #10
                    hmmn thats odd,

                    why have

                    Ellen aged 7.
                    Julia aged 8.
                    Anne aged 7.

                    which reg dis would Deptford come under? would it be classed as London then?

                    hmmn
                    Julie
                    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                    .......I find dead people

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                    • #11
                      Deptford came under Greenwich then.

                      the childrens ages are slightly odd, of course there could be twins
                      Vikki -
                      Researching Titchmarsh and Tushingham

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                      • #12
                        Thats what I was thinking but cant see anything deffo for twins birth (or any other birth for that matter)..lol.

                        Do you know Ellens MN yet?
                        Julie
                        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                        .......I find dead people

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                        • #13
                          Nope!!!!

                          Now you can see why I have a head ache :D

                          I am begining to wonder if these children were born in England at all. obviously James was (b.1863 there are a few possibles for his birth reg).
                          I was hoping that John and Ellen although both born in Ireland met and married here, but it isn't looking good.

                          As for Ann/Anne/Annie and all other varients her bith reg is looking impossible. I am hoping that there were all baptised in Deptford, I think there are only 2 possible churches for that time period.


                          Ooooo brain wave, off to check cityark website.....they might have records for Deptford...BRB

                          edit - Cityark doesn't cover Deptford
                          Last edited by vikki brace; 18-06-08, 14:37.
                          Vikki -
                          Researching Titchmarsh and Tushingham

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                          • #14
                            I do not wish to put a spanner in the works here but Irish people in UK did not always register their children's births! Yes, it may have been an offence not to do so, but it was not always a high priority for the Irish! They did, however, rate Baptism very highly, so if you knew which church, you could possibly find a baptism rather than a registered birth! My OH has many like that, unregistered, and in our case cannot even find the baptism as do not know which church!

                            Someone also spoke about a Connor family on the next page. Long shot, but can you follow that family through to see where they came from in Ireland? You never know they may have come from same area? Another long shot, there is a Connor page on Irish pages, think you would get website by googling or looking at Genuki Ireland. If I find it I will post it on here.

                            janet

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                            • #15
                              Thanks Janet

                              I have just found out that the Parish records for Deptford are held at the LMA, I'll be heading there in the next few months so I will take a look there.
                              Vikki -
                              Researching Titchmarsh and Tushingham

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                              • #16
                                Vikki

                                Connors "One Name Surname Study" as follows:

                                Connors, O'Connors, Connor, Conner, Conners Genealogy


                                Janet
                                Last edited by Janet; 18-06-08, 18:10.

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                                • #17
                                  Vikki,

                                  is this Ellen (mum) in 1881?

                                  - Ancestry.co.uk
                                  Julie
                                  They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                  .......I find dead people

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                                  • #18
                                    right,

                                    I have found this: BIRTH

                                    Hannah Connell.
                                    1856- march q.
                                    greenwich.
                                    vol: 1d
                                    page: 521.

                                    Which would tie in with the 1871 cens (could Hannah be Hague?, but mangled?)

                                    - Ancestry.co.uk
                                    Julie
                                    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                    .......I find dead people

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                                    • #19
                                      Yes its her, and her son James is with her too.

                                      Thanks
                                      Vikki -
                                      Researching Titchmarsh and Tushingham

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                                      • #20
                                        The only problem with the Hannah & Hague being the same person is that in 1861 Hague is listed as Son and age in male column.

                                        Good looking birth though for Hannah
                                        Vikki -
                                        Researching Titchmarsh and Tushingham

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