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  • I think one of my brick walls might be tumbling down!

    My ggg grandfather John Layzell has long been a brickwall for me. I can't find him in 1841, in 1851 he is c1817 St Osyth Essex and he died in 1860. he was in the Marines but despite a kind member searching Kew for his records, she couldn't find them :(. He married in Derby in 1845, which always seemed strange as it is such a long way from Essex & his father was shown as William Layzell, Labourer.

    I put a request on Rootschat a bit ago, asking for a look up on St Osyth PRs, but heard nothing. However, last week I got a reply from a lady saying that she had looked at the PR's but there were no Layzells mentioned. However she then came back to say that she had found a baptism of a William Layzell in Weeley in 1811, parents William & Sarah (nee Purdy) and that she had found 3 other births for William & Sarah as submitted entries in Great Bentley, including one for John Layzell, in 1817! She also had found burials of a 9yr old William & 30yr old Sarah at St Osyth in 1820. It looks like this is my family with John's mother & brother dying in 1820. I have asked a cousin who lives in Chelmsford to check the records for me.

    However, whilst checking the details that I wanted my cousin to look for, I did a parent search for William & Sarah on Familysearch, to get the right dates. There were more than one set of William & Sarah Layzells, but the one that stood out were listed as Lassells (a common mispelling) & were in Derbyshire. This couple, married in Derbyshire in 1831 & had 2 children Laura bp St Alkmund & William bp St Werburgh, which is the church where John Layzell married in 1845!

    Layzell or variants is not a comman name & is mainly found in Essex & there doesn't appear to be any other Layzells in Derbyshire at that time. so it looks to me as if William, widowed in 1820, moved up to Derbyshire & remarried, another Sarah taking his son John with him. Unfortunately there is no sign of William in 1841, although I have found Sarah & the children in Derby & in 1851, she is listed as a widow. But I certainly think it is a breakthrough!
    Lynn

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    wow good for you
    wye surrey/london/birmingham
    lawrence/laurence berkshire/london/norfolk
    hall harrison cook/e pratt surrey
    ebbage maltby pratt norfolk
    herbert pratt yorkshire/hampshire
    armstrong/rickinson/harrison/beddington yorkshire

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    • #3
      Lynn

      Surely the name is a corruption of Lascelles? But I'm sure you would have spotted that anyway.

      Sounds as if the wall is shaking a bit....well done!

      OC

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      • #4
        Sounds really good. Congratulations!

        Christine
        Researching: BENNETT (Leics/Birmingham-ish) - incl. Leonard BENNETT in Detroit & Florida ; WARR/WOR, STRATFORD & GARDNER/GARNAR (Oxon); CHRISTMAS, RUSSELL, PAFOOT/PAFFORD (Hants); BIGWOOD, HAYLER/HAILOR (Sussex); LANCASTER (Beds, Berks, Wilts) - plus - COCKS (Spitalfields, Liverpool, Plymouth); RUSE/ROWSE, TREMEER, WADLIN(G)/WADLETON (Devonport, E Cornwall); GOULD (S Devon); CHAPMAN, HALL/HOLE, HORN (N Devon); BARRON, SCANTLEBURY (Mevagissey)...

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        • #5
          Thanks all. I think that Lascelles is one of the other versions of the name, Familysearch very kindly bring up variations of a name when you do a search, otherwise I would never have picked it up.
          Lynn

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