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  • The Christian Name "Cerise"

    One of coz's rellies has the distinction of being the very first Cerise in Freebmd.

    So, was this a fancy Cherry? Where does the name come from?

    There are none on Ancestry until 1861, when two small girls appear at opposite ends of southern England, both born in the West Indies.

    Poor Cerise Grant died in Hackney in 1877. So, who was the Cerise Grant born in 1885? And where is she in 1891 and 1901?

    Help, please!
    Phoenix - with charred feathers
    Researching Skillings from Norfolk, Sworn from Salisbury and Adams in Malborough, Devon.

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    Have you seen this?

    Cerise (color - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
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    Jacob Sudders born in Prussia c.1775 married Alice Pidgeon in 1800 in Gorelston. Do you know where Jacob was born?

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    • #3
      Your Wiki is better, Pippa: that link just invites me to make an entry!

      I am not aware of any French blood in the Grants, but I don't understand why an East End family chose a French name for their daughter.
      Phoenix - with charred feathers
      Researching Skillings from Norfolk, Sworn from Salisbury and Adams in Malborough, Devon.

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      • #4
        It is French for cherry, and also used to describe a cherry colour, but it does seem an unusual name to pick. Were they from the French or English speaking part of the West Indies?

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        • #5
          Father born Shoreditch, mother Billingsgate!

          As the parents are William and Sarah Grant, there are several candidates for Sarah, but none of the surnames look the least bit French.
          Phoenix - with charred feathers
          Researching Skillings from Norfolk, Sworn from Salisbury and Adams in Malborough, Devon.

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          • #6
            I can't see the birth reg for the 1885 girl?

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            • #7
              It took me some time:

              Births Dec 1885

              Cerise Elizabeth Grant Hackney 1b 594
              Phoenix - with charred feathers
              Researching Skillings from Norfolk, Sworn from Salisbury and Adams in Malborough, Devon.

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              • #8
                I suppose it was the same then as it is now - expectant mum hears an unusual name and thinks "Ooh, that's lovely, I'll call mine that".

                OR - Cerise might have been a heroine in a story in Pegs Paper!

                OC

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                • #9
                  Doh! Nice transcription!

                  So she was still in Hackney for her marriage..............

                  Here she is in 1891:

                  RG12; Piece: 1391; Folio 7; Page 8

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                  • #10
                    Durrrrrrrrrr!

                    Now why didn't I think of looking for Conie?!
                    Phoenix - with charred feathers
                    Researching Skillings from Norfolk, Sworn from Salisbury and Adams in Malborough, Devon.

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                    • #11
                      Can't find her in 1901. I went down the route of mum marrying and Cerise appearing with her stepfather's name in 1901, but it didn't work! lol

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                      • #12
                        Ooh, if she's Ellen's daughter is she with the Jaynes in 1901?
                        Phoenix - with charred feathers
                        Researching Skillings from Norfolk, Sworn from Salisbury and Adams in Malborough, Devon.

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                        • #13
                          Obviously not, then.
                          Phoenix - with charred feathers
                          Researching Skillings from Norfolk, Sworn from Salisbury and Adams in Malborough, Devon.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                            Durrrrrrrrrr!

                            Now why didn't I think of looking for Conie?!
                            Well I didn't!! I just looked for Grant, b Hackney 1886 +/-1

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                            • #15
                              And it doesn't look as if she's with the Priddens. All the other children are boys. She ought to be down as a Grant. Heyho.

                              Thanks for looking, Merry.

                              OC, I'd have thought that if the name had any publicity, it would have become popular. But it never seems to have taken off in the 1800s.
                              Phoenix - with charred feathers
                              Researching Skillings from Norfolk, Sworn from Salisbury and Adams in Malborough, Devon.

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                              • #16
                                If she was a servant in 1901 she might have had a Lady Marjorie Bellamy done to her!

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                                • #17
                                  Phoenix

                                  Nice to know that one of your rellies was in the pink, lol lol!
                                  ~ with love from Little Nell~
                                  Chowns, Dunt, Emms, Mealing, Purvey & Smoothy

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                                  • #18
                                    Right. Fresh back from a day at Kew, I have the answer!

                                    Mother Sarah was actually Cherry! Cherry Murphy in 1841, Cherry Murphy on marriage, Cherry Grant in 1861..... then Sarah for the next three censuses, Cherry Grant in 1901 and that is the name on her death reg. Why, when Mum thought Cherry was too fancy for everyday use, she saddled her daughter with a frenchified version I dunno, but I reckon OC's notion is the right one.
                                    Phoenix - with charred feathers
                                    Researching Skillings from Norfolk, Sworn from Salisbury and Adams in Malborough, Devon.

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                                    • #19
                                      Phoenix

                                      Curious! I often wonder what thinking went on when names were chosen. I was named Helen because my father disliked Jessica and my Mum found all the other girl babies in the ward were going to be called Angela!
                                      ~ with love from Little Nell~
                                      Chowns, Dunt, Emms, Mealing, Purvey & Smoothy

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                                      • #20
                                        Phoenix

                                        LOL! I spoke as one whose grandmother started out as Ethel and finished up as Eithlena!

                                        OC

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