Habakkuk Bartram of Dickleburgh, Norfolk had four sons.
Two of these were Samuel born Nov 1801 and James born May 1804
Samuel married Ellen Chilvers in 1835
James married Mary Smith in 1833
On 3rd May 1840 James and Mary baptised their 4th son Samuel Bartram
on 14th June 1840 Samuel and Ellen baptised their 4th son Samuel Bartram
both baby Samuels appear on the 1841 census in Dickleburgh with their respective parents.
There is only one Samuel Bartram showing up in later census, married to Tryphena.
I am trying to figure out which of the two he would be.
On the 1851 census the families live two doors apart.
Samuel and Ellen now have a Samuel aged 4 and James and Mary have Samuel aged 10.
There is a baptism for a Samuel James Bartram born Sep 1847.
Am I safe to assume that Samuel and Ellen's son died and they renamed a later one after him, and the Samuel born 1840 on later census is the son of James and Mary.
It isn't unknown for the Bartrams to have two children with the same first name at the same time and call one by a middle name - that's why I'm after a bit of reassurance that I'm not making too many assumptions.
these are a side line so I'd trying to avoid buying the Samuel/Tryphena marriage cert if I can
Thank you in advance
Two of these were Samuel born Nov 1801 and James born May 1804
Samuel married Ellen Chilvers in 1835
James married Mary Smith in 1833
On 3rd May 1840 James and Mary baptised their 4th son Samuel Bartram
on 14th June 1840 Samuel and Ellen baptised their 4th son Samuel Bartram
both baby Samuels appear on the 1841 census in Dickleburgh with their respective parents.
There is only one Samuel Bartram showing up in later census, married to Tryphena.
I am trying to figure out which of the two he would be.
On the 1851 census the families live two doors apart.
Samuel and Ellen now have a Samuel aged 4 and James and Mary have Samuel aged 10.
There is a baptism for a Samuel James Bartram born Sep 1847.
Am I safe to assume that Samuel and Ellen's son died and they renamed a later one after him, and the Samuel born 1840 on later census is the son of James and Mary.
It isn't unknown for the Bartrams to have two children with the same first name at the same time and call one by a middle name - that's why I'm after a bit of reassurance that I'm not making too many assumptions.
these are a side line so I'd trying to avoid buying the Samuel/Tryphena marriage cert if I can
Thank you in advance
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