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Merry Monty Montgomery
01-06-08, 11:18
This bit is fact >>>>>>

Job Smith was born on 1st June 1796 at Witney, Oxfordshire.

This bit is what his youngest dau, born in 1855 in America, said >>>>>>


At the time of his birth there was a great flood and he and his mother were rescued by boat through an upper window of their home.

Would that be the river Windrush? I've been to Witney but didn't know about this at the time :(

samesizedfeet
01-06-08, 11:29
unless it's moved in the past 300+ years, current streetmap shows the Windrush flowing through Witney.

Gale had 18th century newspapers if you still have access to it - not sure what the coverage was though i.e. if they were all national or some were regional.

Have you asked your contact where she got this info from?

Merry Monty Montgomery
01-06-08, 11:36
I've looked at the Gale site, but didn't find anything.

My contact is no longer speaking to me! He told me that his grandmother, who was the niece of Job's youngest daughter, used to tell him about his English gg-grandfather, including this story passed down from Job's youngest daughter.

I was thinking, if it is known where the Windrush is/was liable to flooding, then I might even be able to work out whereabouts they lived!

samesizedfeet
01-06-08, 11:39
Hmmm, nothing about the flood but Job Smith's wife Mary died Wednesday 26th May 1841

"leaving a numerous family to lament the loss of an affectionate mother"

Merry Monty Montgomery
01-06-08, 11:42
Hey!! I'm supposed to find that, not you!!! lolol

*taps keyboard furiously*

samesizedfeet
01-06-08, 11:44
aaaaaarrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh

The problem with searching for the word flood is that they're using the f/s thing and I'm getting a zillion hits for the word "stood" as it happens to be the same time as a general election

Merry Monty Montgomery
01-06-08, 11:44
Oooh, got it now, thanks Zoe!!

Merry Monty Montgomery
01-06-08, 11:45
aaaaaarrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh

The problem with searching for the word flood is that they're using the f/s thing and I'm getting a zillion hits for the word "stood" as it happens to be the same time as a general election


lolol!! :)

Olde Crone Holden
01-06-08, 11:56
Would that be the river Windrush? I've been to Witney but didn't know about this at the time

What were you doing in Witney in 1796, Merry? Buying blankets?


*snigger*

OC

Elaine ..Spain
01-06-08, 12:32
Merry - on the Gale site do a search for Windrush in the 17th/18th Burnley Collection

News
True Briton (1793) (London, England), Monday, September 18, 1797; Issue 1477.

Little Nell
01-06-08, 12:51
Well, there was a flood in Witney in July 2007, so I guess its quite likely it happened years earlier.

Photos: Gallery of Witney Flood Photographs - Page 1 (http://www.witney.net/floods/)

Little Nell
01-06-08, 12:53
and from Wikipedia:

"In July 2007 Witney saw its worst flooding in over 50 years. Homes and businesses were evacuated and Bridge Street, a major road into the town and the only road across the Windrush, was closed causing severe traffic problems.

An estimated 200 properties were flooded in the centre of Witney, with areas around Bridge Street, Mill Street and West End the worst affected. The new and incomplete housing development Aquarius also suffered substantial flooding.

David Cameron, Member of Parliament for Witney, visited the town to see the damage for himself."

Merry Monty Montgomery
01-06-08, 12:58
What were you doing in Witney in 1796, Merry? Buying blankets?


*snigger*

OC


:(:(

Merry Monty Montgomery
01-06-08, 13:01
I just keep imagining this poor woman with her new baby being shoved out of the window....... :o She had five other children to get out too! Imagine being in labour and being told to hurry because more than one lot of water is breaking!

Little Nell
01-06-08, 13:05
Merry

this is a story his daughter told (so necessarily 2nd hand, and as her father wouldn't have remembered it he would have been repeating what he had been told, so 3rd hand ) and its presumably been passed on to you (so 4th+ hand).

"At the time of his birth" mightn't mean his actual birth, but maybe even a month or more later. Though I do agree it would have been quite an ordeal and no doubt why she heard about it in the first place.

There would probably be records about this in the relevant archives (if they weren't destroyed by flood!)

Merry Monty Montgomery
01-06-08, 13:09
Yes, I agree Nell......He might have been a baby, or it might even have been one of his siblings (he had 11 siblings.....if I was his mother, their births would merge into one ordeal!) .......

Uncle John
01-06-08, 14:06
An estimated 200 properties were flooded in the centre of Witney, with areas around Bridge Street, Mill Street and West End the worst affected. The new and incomplete housing development Aquarius also suffered substantial flooding.

What an unfortunate name for a housing development on a flood plain.

Pippa Doll
01-06-08, 14:52
Merry,

I know it flooded last year as LMP's Godparents live there. I am going there on 14th June to attend a party at the Marlborough Hotel and if you know where they lived and its not too far away I will take a picture for you if you would like one.

Merry Monty Montgomery
01-06-08, 20:12
Merry,

I know it flooded last year as LMP's Godparents live there. I am going there on 14th June to attend a party at the Marlborough Hotel and if you know where they lived and its not too far away I will take a picture for you if you would like one.


But unfortunately I don't know where they lived exactly :o

Maybe you could take photos of all the properties built before 1796 and with a tide mark just below the upper story windows??!! :D

Merry Monty Montgomery
01-06-08, 21:03
Merry - on the Gale site do a search for Windrush in the 17th/18th Burnley Collection

News
True Briton (1793) (London, England), Monday, September 18, 1797; Issue 1477.


Sorry Elaine, I didn't notice your post before....Thank you :)