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    Hi Folks.
    I have been checking thru Marriages at Ancestry.com
    The husband is Thomas Gray born 1841 in Sunderland.
    But I have 7 possible marriages.
    I have the info (eg....1/1862 Durham 10a 235) for them all but don't want to have to pay for 7 certificates.
    Is there anywhere that BOTH participants in the Marriage are listed under the same reference as above?
    If you know what I mean...................

    Rgds
    Morris Gray

  • #2
    Hi Morris!

    Have checked your marriage on freeBMD and can see four names
    Marriages Mar 1862
    Alderson Isabella
    Gray Thomas
    Hardy Ann
    Rowel Matthew
    Durham 10a 235

    They are listed in alphabetical order so until you get the certificate you cannot be 100 percent sure who married who.

    Not sure where you found the 7 possible marriages!

    If you are sure that the Thomas Gray is the one you want, then you can just order the marriage certificate stating his name and the reference number. It is not necessary to state the name of the wife on the certificate request.

    Are you sure he is your man?
    Have you looked to see if you can find him in the 1871 census to see the name of his wife, and then tried to trace her back in the previous census to see if the names match up with either of the two above.

    Elaine
    Elaine







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    • #3
      The usual routine (not always possible!) is to find your man after his marriage on the census to pick up the first name of his bride, then possibly to purchase a birth cert for one of their children to establish her previous surname(s). Then look for matching GRO refs for the two names.

      Does that make any sense?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by morrisg View Post
        Is there anywhere that BOTH participants in the Marriage are listed under the same reference as above?
        If you know what I mean...................

        Rgds
        Morris Gray
        Yes, on FreeBMD if you click the page number alongside his name.

        Do you know the bride's name?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Elaine ..Spain View Post
          Not sure where you found the 7 possible marriages!
          Elaine, I think Morris only posted one of his seven as an example!

          Oh, and welcome to Family Tree Forum, Morris

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Merry Monty Montgomery View Post
            Elaine, I think Morris only posted one of his seven as an example!
            Yes - read it too quickly!
            Elaine







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            • #7
              Wow......what speedy replies!
              Thanks for the Welcome.
              I thought there was only me that sat at my computer on a sunny day, but clearly not........
              I have quite a comprehensive Tree. I followed Thomas Gray thru all the Censuses. But he married Mary J (born in Sherburn Durham) and I don't know her surname, hence 7 possibles (Ancestry.com only lists ONE person per marriage.)
              Thanks Morris

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              • #8
                We are speedy on here! Too hot to sit in the sun!

                Can you post the reference for the 1871 census where you have found the family?

                It will be something like RG10; Piece: xxxx Folio: xxxx Page: xxx
                Elaine







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                • #9
                  My money is here, Elaine!

                  RG10; Piece: 5018; Folio: 60; Page: 80

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                  • #10
                    I've got that one open as well Merry!
                    Elaine







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                    • #11
                      If that is them, you could get their son's birth cert:

                      Births Jun 1868
                      GRAY Edward Sunderland 10a 613

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                      • #12
                        Hi Elaine and Merry Monty.
                        Not sure where to find the Ref no. but ................oops......can see it.
                        RG10 Piece 5018 Folio 60 Page 80 Roll 847384.

                        Morris also in Sunny Spain

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                        • #13
                          That's the one we thought it would be!

                          What you really need to do is to get one of the children's birth certificates which will give the mother's maiden name. Merry has given you the reference for Edward, who is shown on the 1871 census. If there were any older children you may prefer to look for one of their birth certificates, in particular whoever is your direct ancestor.

                          Try using freeBMD for looking up births, marriages and death - you might, or might not, find it easier than Ancestry.
                          FreeBMD - Search
                          Elaine







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                          • #14
                            Hi again.....
                            Canplain to me how the listing at FreeBMD works.
                            I looked up 3/1862 Sunderland 10a 508.
                            Thomas is listed.
                            But why no-one else. Surely if he got married on that sheet his wife would be there as well???????
                            Confused
                            Morris

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                            • #15
                              Oops, should say "Can you explain to me........."
                              Sorry Morris

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                              • #16
                                Click on the number 508.
                                It will bring up the other names that were on the original page.
                                There are normally 4 names, listed in alphabetical order - so you cannot see from that who has married who.
                                Elaine







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                                • #17
                                  Is that the one with Mary Jane Charlton as the possible bride? I've spend the last few mins trying to find her in 1851 and 1861 born in Sherburn to no avail, but I don't know Co Durham at all, so that's not helping!

                                  Also that marriage is after the birth reg.....not that that's a problem necessarily, but combined with not being able to find her...............

                                  Perhaps someone else will have more success?

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                                  • #18
                                    Don't forget to try Sunderland BMD:

                                    Sunderland City Council
                                    KiteRunner

                                    Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh"
                                    (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by morrisg View Post
                                      Hi again.....
                                      Canplain to me how the listing at FreeBMD works.
                                      I looked up 3/1862 Sunderland 10a 508.

                                      Ignore me....that's not the one I was refering to!

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                                      • #20
                                        You're both stars ******************
                                        I now realise that I can get Edward's birth certificate............but if they had no children (as some other ancestors don't) I would have expected to find Mary J listed on one of the sheets.
                                        Thanks Elaine, I see that I should click on the page 508.

                                        Morris
                                        ps the Family Search CD's are not as comprehensive as the FreeBMD.

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