Thanks for the opportunity, just come in from work, give me 10 mins to get my cuppa and find my bits of paperwork, and then I'll be back.
L
Right here we go. Looking for Schofield & Sutcliffe families.
1838
25/11/1838 Oldham Parish Church maariage of
William Schofield Full Age Bachelor Labourer Address Oldham Father John Schofield
Sarah Ann Sutcliffe Full Age Spinster No Occ. Address Oldham Father Dead
1841 Census H0107/0548/13/F3/P30
Downing St Royton Oldham
William Schofield 25 Cotton Weaver Born in County
Sarah Schofield 20 Cotton Weaver Born in County
1851 Census H0107/2243/F257/P14
Name Age Rel. Occ. Born
Sally Scholes 64 Head ? Chadderton
Richard Scholes 30 Son Cotton Weaver Royton
Ellen Scholes 27 Dau do do
Ann Scholes 25 Dua Cotton Winder do
William Schofield 34 Son Cotton Weaver do
Sarah Schofield 30 Sons Wife do do
Elizabeth Schofield 7 G Dau N/A Oldham
I have full traceabilty of the Schofields from these dates forward, but the questions I now ask (bearing in mind I only got the MC today) is
1) We have John Schofield as Williams father, when was he born & where and when/when did he die?
2) When did he marry Sally?
3) Who was Sally prior to marriage
4) When did she marry again.
5) Who was Sarah 's family.
Thats my starter I'll start on the others shortly, and many thanks in advance to all who try/contribute to this.
There's a baptism on the IGI for Richard Scholes in 1822 at Royton showing his parents as John Scholes and Sally. (I excpet there are baps for some/all of the otehr Scholes - I haven't looked)
This looks like their marriage. Sally is a diminutive of Sarah:
JOHN SCHOLES
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH SCHOFIELD
Marriage: 19 MAY 1817 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
It's not going to be so easy to find the first marriage of Sally/Sarah to john Schofield as we can't be certain when/where they married and don't know her maiden name....
I'd seen that marriage but I must admit I'd dismissed it because of the Sarah, I'll need to try to find a John Schofield / Sarah marriage rather than a JS/Sally one now. For long enough I'd thought that the Scholes was a miss spelling of Schofield, however after finally getting the MC for William, it now does definately appear that Sally/Sarah has been married twice Schofield/Scholes
I'd seen that marriage but I must admit I'd dismissed it because of the Sarah,
L
My first name is Sarah. When I was born my grandfather asked what I would be called and when told said, "Oh, never mind, I suppose you could call her Sally"
Having another look on the IGI, there are a number of John Schofield marriages in Oldham to any number of Sally's and Sarah's, without knowing what her maiden name was I appear stumped.
No luck on the OPC's neither for the marriage, baptism of William or John's death.
I have found what seems to be Sarah Ann's baptism
09/11/1817 St Mary's Oldham
father Ged Sutliffe
mother Fanny,
a least I can get on following that up.
My 2nd problem is
John Ellison born abt 1807 in Hawarden in Flintshire he married Catherine ?? abt 1829, she is on the 1841 census in Little Neston Cheshire with the children but he isn’t.
He remarried Bridget Lewis in OND 1850, after her first husband died in Ness Colliery in 1838.
John and Bridget were not living together in the 1851 census, he was with his children in Little Neston but described as married, and she was with her children in Ness, but she was also described as married, and listed as Bridget Ellison.
The wall is I can’t find John or Bridget after 1851
I thought her previous name was supposed to be Lewis?
UPDATE: Oh I get it....Cheshire BMD has two entries for her....one Lewis and the other Stanley. That's very useful. I don't have any relatives from places that have online indexes, so I'm not used to them!
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