The winner of WDWTYA? 17th April 2008 is......

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

SBPF Wendy

Well done Wendy

[borobabs]

Yeah Wendy go for it girl get that wall down ;;;congratulations

[SBPF Wendy]

Thanks Merry and Babs just got in is it ok if i put it up in morning.........will get my stuff together.xxxxxx

[Northern Light]

Well done Wendy, hope those walls come tumbling down..

[SBPF Wendy]

Thanks Light hope so too lol

[SBPF Wendy]

Good morning everyone, sorry i didnt put anything up last night.
This is one that has had me banging my head for ages.....................

Here goes.........
John Matthews or Matthew b 1912.in Hull..........Parents
John Matthews or Matthew b1876 in ??? and
Alice Johnson b1875 in Hull
John and Alice married 7/7/1895 St James Church Hull
John was 19 and a painter and Alice was 20
The witnesses were Samuel Johnson and Emily Duffield.
They were down as living at 1 ??????? Buildings Mechanic Lane Hull.
On the certificate John's father is down as ............
John Matthews (Matthew) Deceased Pattern Maker
Alice's Father is down as ..........
William Johnson Deceased Rully Man............
Now i have found William and his family the problem i am having is the many John Matthews (Matthew)
I cannot find anything on John b1876 or his father which means i cant get back any further on that side.
Will put some more up later................thankyou so much in advance and will understand if you cant find them too

[SBPF Wendy]

Have to go out so not ignoring anyone, will be back later.xxxxxx

[KiteRunner]

I've been trying and trying to find John and Alice on the 1901 census, but I just can't find them. Have you already got them on that one, Wendy?

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I've been trying and trying to find John and Alice on the 1901 census, but I just can't find them. Have you already got them on that one, Wendy?

I don't think she can have, Kaie, or she would know where John (1876) might have been born.

*muses over how long John was a painter? In 1895 and in 1912??*

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Was John b 1912 a twin? Not that this has anything to do with youw Q!! There was an Ivy Matthews registered for birth on the same page, same mum's maiden name.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I wondered if this might be their first child?

Births Jun 1896
Matthews Alice Mary Hull 9d 291

but I can't find her either!! lol

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Forget her, she has a different mother. :(

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I've looked at all the births and deaths for Matthews/Matthew/Mathews/Mathews from 1895-1901 in the district of Hull and all of those living are accounted for in other families in 1901.

I think there were two who died......

Births Dec 1899
Matthews John William Hull 9d 315

Deaths Dec 1899
Matthews John William 0 Hull 9d 210

Births Dec 1900
Matthews Hannah Elizabeth Hull 9d 298

Deaths Dec 1900
Matthews Hannah Elizabeth 0 Hull 9d 198

There's also this death for which I can't find a matching birth (but might have been born out of Hull of course).........

Deaths Mar 1899
MATTHEWS John William 1 Hull 9d 183

I was thinking if any of these belong to your couple (particularly the Dec 1900 death) there's always a possibility Alice and John would be at the same address in 1901, maybe badly transcribed or incorrectly entered or whatever.

Might it be worth making enquiries at Hull Reg Office?

[Northern Light]

I cant find them on the 1901, just glad she hasnt put her Smiths up yet ..:D

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I cant find them on the 1901, just glad she hasnt put her Smiths up yet ..:D

We can always go out if that happens :(

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I've looked at all the births and deaths for Matthews/Matthew/Mathews/Mathews from 1895-1901 in the district of Hull and all of those living are accounted for in other families in 1901.

Just doing the same for Sculcoates District....isn't that Hull-ish? Will take a lot longer as there's loads of births!

(is anywhere else classed as part of Hull?)

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Just doing the same for Sculcoates District....isn't that Hull-ish? Will take a lot longer as there's loads of births!

(is anywhere else classed as part of Hull?)

There were too many I couldn't find to be one family!!

Let's say your lot were all born in Hull district, shall we?!!

[Northern Light]

Thinks thats best Merry, Im not coming up with much..

[SBPF Wendy]

Hello back from shops.
Right .....just found out John b1912 was a twin apparently but the twin didnt live long we think.............i also believe John and Alice may have had 5 children that didnt survive.x
I too cannot find them on 1901 census, but someone did find me who could have been them, but registered as Duffield.x

[Northern Light]

So this is Johns twin that Merry found earlier..

Ivy M Matthews 2ndq 1912, vol 9d page 573 Hull

Poss death for Ivy...Matthews Ivy M 0 Hull vol 9d page 341... 2ndq 1912