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  • Can you help identify this uniform please?

    Can anyone help me identify this uniform please? It is late 1920's to mid
    1930's and is maybe somewhere in East Anglia ?

    (I don't know if I've done it correctly)


    Last edited by Viv; 03-04-08, 21:02.
    ♥Viv in Herts♥


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  • #2
    Help !!!!!!!!!!!! what have I done wrong?
    ♥Viv in Herts♥


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    • #3
      Ohhhhh, I did it !
      ♥Viv in Herts♥


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      • #4
        I will be very interested to know the answer to this because my mum remembers seeing a photo of her grandfather wearing a slouch hat like that. When I checked I found that the British army stopped issuing them in 1906 so that meant it had to be the Boer War. Yet the only records I can find place him in the First World War based at Gorleston on the East Coast as an army driver (presumably of horses) in the Middlesex Regiment.

        As regards your picture, I hope that Don.t can make his usual breathtaking contribution, but I would say the uniform does not look like British issue from any period. The cloth is too light for wearing in a European zone and his leather kit is certainly not standard issue. Can you get a close-up of his collar?

        Is this a teenager dressed up in his father's uniform? The trousers look too long and the jacket is too big - he has his hands behind his back to disguise the length of sleeve but the breast pockets are too low. A professional soldier would at least have placed his belt buckle centrally.
        Last edited by Paul Barton, Special Agent; 03-04-08, 22:39.
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        • #5
          Paul, I do not know who this man is but I think it is a friend of my father.
          I have a photo of the whole group (battalion) which I'll put on in a minute.

          The group all wear the same uniform and I know my dad joined up late 1920's to mid 1930's which is when both photos were taken. My dad is in the group (he was born 1908). He was living on the Cambridgeshire/Suffolk boarder and a distant cousin said he joined the Indian Army but I've looked in The British Library and not found anything. I know he wasn't in long and his sister bought him out.
          ♥Viv in Herts♥


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          • #6
            This is the whole group. My dad on the right, 3rd row from the top and 3rd man in.

            ♥Viv in Herts♥


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            • #7
              I'm sorry the photos are such poor quality .... I just hope someone can shed some light on the uniform and what regiment they are.
              ♥Viv in Herts♥


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              • #8
                Hi Viv,

                Soft felt Slouch hats were issued to members of the British army after the Boer War in January 1902 and these were based on those used by our forces in South Africa. This style of headware was short lived and 1903 they were replaced by a peakless cap known as a Broderick Cap. However Slouch hats did not disappear altogether as some T.A. battalions (Infantry & Yeomanry units) retained these hats. The leather equipment that he is wearing about his body appears to be the 1914 Pattern which was first issued in that year as an emergency issue to fill the gap caused by the lack of ordinary supplies to the Army. In 1916 this style of equipment was seen as being obsolete by most of the front line troops and was replaced by the standard 1908 webbing equipment as and when it was reissued. Like the Slouch Hat this leather equipment was retained for training battalions (and some specialist troops). The belt, worn on its own, was popular with the troops when walking out. The uniform itself makes me think that this was a Volunteer Battalion that your father belonged to. The colouration may have possibly been a grey colour with scarlet cuff's and facings. The fact that there are collar dogs showing indicate to me that the photograph was taken after 1924 when an order came into being for units of the British army to wear small copies of their regimental badges on their collars, just has they had in 1902. Although the regimental badge is not that distinct in this photograph I would suggest that, going by the shape, form and appearence, that it may well be The Norfolk Regiment, although a more sharper image of the badge may well help to decide one way or the other.

                don.

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                • #9
                  Don, thank you so very much.

                  Viv
                  ♥Viv in Herts♥


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                  • #10
                    Don't think this helps a lot but at least it is bigger.


                    ♥Viv in Herts♥


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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the close up Viv, it certainly looks like the badge of the Holy boys. The badge would consist of a seated Britannia facing (as she does) to the left with the tines of her tridant over her left shoulder, her right arm extended offering an olive branch. The angled line underneath her would be the scroll work with the regimental title in it. I have included a link to the Norfolk Regiment's museum which show's a variant of the cap badge for comparison.

                      Royal Norfolk Regimental Museum

                      don

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                      • #12
                        Thank you Don but I keep having this sneaky feeling it was part of the Cambridgeshire Regiment. I say this because I have found a Cambridgeshire Regiment badge that belonged to my dad ... it has a clip on the back. I'm sure he talked about Bury St Edmonds.
                        ♥Viv in Herts♥


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                        • #13



                          This is the badge. (This is taken from an article on The Cambridgeshire Regiment)
                          Last edited by Viv; 04-04-08, 23:41.
                          ♥Viv in Herts♥


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                          • #14


                            I hope the collar dogs are clearer in this one. They look more like rearing horses than Britannia.
                            Last edited by Viv; 05-04-08, 01:49.
                            ♥Viv in Herts♥


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                            • #15
                              having taken you down the wrong path in the company of the Holy Boys and their lady friend lets have a try at another regiment now that the image is better. The central image of the badge does look like a rearing animal and in fact that is what it is. The badge would apprear to show a lion with forelegs raised, facing left emerging from a crown with scroll work underneath and is the regimental badge for the 7th Dragoon Guards ( The Black Horse also known as The Virgin Mary's Bodyguard). Again I have added a link to compare to see what you think.

                              sorry for the wrong info first time round.

                              don

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                              • #16
                                Don, I can't get the link to work BUT I've been on RDG museum site and the emblem they show (very small and in colour) looks promising.

                                Viv
                                ♥Viv in Herts♥


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