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Vicky the Viking
29-03-08, 14:57
Found this photo amongst MIL's things when clearing her flat. No idea who they are, but I'm hoping we can work it out if we have a date to work to.

Don't know if it helps, but its printed on a "postcard"

Location I would say I'm 99% certain its Leigh, Lancashire, and I think the chap - whoever he is - is a coal miner. I can make out clogs which were pretty standard for working folk right up to the 1950's or later.

Do you think the children are a boy & a girl - and approx ages please, as I'm rubbish at that!

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w127/smithfamily_album/FTunknown.jpg

Nichola
29-03-08, 15:17
Vicky
Are there any clues on the back at all?
My grt nan had photos of herself on postcards that she sent to her husband. They dated 1917.

Nichola
29-03-08, 15:20
Vicky
Looking at the children I would say the older child is a girl aged 4 and little one could be a boy or girl 18mnths maybe 2.
As for dating not sure the lady looks like she has an apron on so not much of her dress to see.

Vicky the Viking
29-03-08, 15:26
Unfortunately there is absolutely nothing written on the photo itself.

Looking at how the children fit into the tree, we think its either around 1902/3 or 1934/5, if it is a girl & then a boy. I'm tending towards the 1930's but would like further opinions.

Of course we could be on the wrong track completely & its a cousin/brother rather than direct line, in which case it could be any date!

Nichola
29-03-08, 15:41
Vicky
Having blown your photo up it looks like the little one is wearing shorts and little clog shoes,so could be a little boy. Have googled children clogs and found a photo of some small kids wearing similar clog shoes taken 1905,but as you said they wore clogs upto 1950 lancashire.

Northern Light
29-03-08, 16:57
Ide say the younger child also is about 18mth to 2yrs as his mum has a nappy pin in her apron.
Kids and pitmen wore clogs in Wigan till the early sixties lol..can still remember them clattering on the cobbles.

Vicky the Viking
29-03-08, 17:02
Ide say the younger child also is about 18mth to 2yrs as his mum has a nappy pin in her apron.
Kids and pitmen wore clogs in Wigan till the early sixties lol..can still remember them clattering on the cobbles.

:D OH said he wore clogs as a child - he was born 1951.

as for the nappy pin, he asked if they would have had them in 1902/3 :confused:

Just Barbara
29-03-08, 18:53
Looking at mum I would date the photo late 1920s or 1930s, both of them hard times for poor folk.

Olde Crone Holden
30-03-08, 00:01
I would say 30s, rather than earlier. The lady's dress is the typical length for the 1930s.

Slightly alarmed that she is not wearing a cross-over pinny though - it looks more like a tabard apron, which would make it more like the 1950s. (Or perhaps she is pregnant - I believe they wore a sort of tunic thing over their ordinary clothes and left the buttons etc undone on the dress)

OC

Jill on the A272
30-03-08, 00:12
The hemline suggests early late 1920s early 1930s, the lady hasn't had her hair bobbed (a hairstyle that has to be re-cut often therefore expensive)

Vicky the Viking
30-03-08, 10:15
Slightly alarmed that she is not wearing a cross-over pinny though - it looks more like a tabard apron, which would make it more like the 1950s. (Or perhaps she is pregnant - I believe they wore a sort of tunic thing over their ordinary clothes and left the buttons etc undone on the dress)

OC
pretty sure this wasn't the 1950's, OH would have recognised the adults.



We *think* we have identified them from circulating the family & seeing if anyone recognises them (no; but several people all say the young girl looks very much like auntie xxx, so at least we know which side of the family we are looking at :)
the young girl was born early 1930 & the boy late 1933 which puts the photo around autumn 1935.

If the youngest child is about 18 months - 2 years old, yes she could very well have been pregnant again, though the next registration is July 1938.

Olde Crone Holden
31-03-08, 00:19
Vicky

Yes, 1930s seems correct. The little girl is wearing a sort of Mabel Lucie Attwell dress which would be correct for the time as well as the little buttoned soft slippers.

OC