advice on 1st marriage please

[garstonite]

hiya...had a little success on gru-tree matches today...but i need a little help if possible...someone has a mary tipping b 1832-34 in garston in their tree..this is her Married name...she has 3 children..john tipping b 1859
mary tipping b 1864 and emma tipping b 1867..Mary`s husband dies,and she re-marries a John Nichols....(my tipping line finishes when mary tipping b 1815,marries joseph ellis).all these presumably in Garston....
so i am trying to find who mary was,and who she married...nothing on lancs bmd...any tips??...regards...allan

[Mary from Italy]

Go to FreeBMD, put Tipping in the surname box and Mary in the spouse's Christian name box. Then enter the date range (presumably between about 1848 and 1859) and the county or town.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

From the 1861 census her husband seems to be Isaac Tipping. (If I'm looking at the right family!)

Not having much luck finding a marriage at the mo though!

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

What date did she remarry? Hopefully after this:

Deaths Dec 1868
Tipping Isaac 38 W. Derby 8b 423

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I wondered if the middle name of their son might help with Mary's maiden name.......

Births Dec 1858
Tipping John Penketh W.Derby 8b 276

..........but it hasn't yet!

[Mary from Italy]

Here's Mary's second marriage, which fits with the death you found for Isaac. I could have sworn I found the marriage to Isaac when I looked earlier, but I can't see it now.

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
Harvey Thomas W Derby 8b 994
Nichols John W Derby 8b 994
Taylor Elizabeth W. Derby 8b 994
Tipping Mary W Derby 8b 994

[Mary from Italy]

Bingo!

Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%)
GRACE Ellen Prescot 8b 725
PENKETH Mary Prescot 8b 725
SUTTON John Prescot 8b 725
TIPPIN Isaac Prescot 8b 725

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Nice one Mary........I thought I'd looked at all the Mary Penketh marriages, but couldn't have been looking properly! lol I'm blaming the TV!

[Lovettpod]

From LDS

JOHN PENKETH TIPPIN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 12 DEC 1858 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

SARAH ANN TIPPIN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 01 APR 1861 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

ALICE MARGARET TIPPIN - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 21 SEP 1856 Hale, Lancashire, England

Margaret Penketh Tippin - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 04 AUG 1862 Hale, Lancashire, England

[garstonite]

thankyou girls...thats great research...now i can contact marys descendant,and i`ll have to somehow tie isaac tipping in with my Mary tipping...both from Garston...thank you all again...i don`t know what i`d do without you...cheers....allan ;)
ADDED...found Isaac and Mary`s marriage on 28th oct 1855 at Hale church(4 miles from garston)...isaac aged 25 (so born abt 1830)and mary aged 23(born abt 1832)...isaacs fathers name was Thomas Tipping...so now trying top find Isaacs birth,and who his mother was.....thanks again...allan

[Lovettpod]

Hi Allan
did you also notice same batch number
MARY TIPPING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Marriage: 04 JUL 1852 Hale, Lancashire, England
Father of Mary also Thomas

And on the 41 and 51 there is a likely looking family on Aigburth Road

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

.isaacs fathers name was Thomas Tipping...so now trying top find Isaacs birth,and who his mother was.....thanks again...allan

1841 census (this will keep you quiet!)

Whitehouse Farm, Toxteth Park

Thomas Tipping 40 farmer
Ann 45
Mary 25
Alice 20
William 20
Ann 20
George 15
Nathan 15
David 14
Isaac 12
Joseph 10
Elizabeth 7

all born in County

HO107; Piece 567; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Toxteth Park; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 41; Folio: 24; Page: 12; Line: 6

1851:

Same address

Thomas 61 farmer of 42 acres b Lancs Allerton (sorry, don't know Lancs, so am guessing writing!)
Ann 60 farmers wife b Lancs Garston
Mary 34 b Lancs Waverton?
Ann 28
Nathan 24
Isaac 20
Joseph 18
Elizabeth 16
Ellen 7 granddaughter

Mary down to Elziabeth are all sons and daughters and Ann junr downwards are all born at Toxteth Park

HO107; Piece: 2188; Folio: 561; Page: 18

[garstonite]

thankyou both...merry,..allerton and garston right next to each other....thomas in the census,seems to be my ancestor...the age is right,and to my knowledge,the only tippings at that time were all my family...so ..thanks again...found some new ancestors this weekend....cheers...allan:D;)