Census help

[kiddygal88]

I am researching a Wassell Family line And i am little Stuck Ive found William Wassell married to a harriet But i am having trouble finding william's parent i belive to think there called Ann N Joseph I have found them in the 1881 census 1971 census but having trouble finmding them in 1861,51,41

the Belived dates of births
Ann 1821ish
Joseph 1832ish
William 1850ish

Areas may be
Stourport
Kidderminster
Wordsley

any help would be greatly appreciated

[Little Nell]

Too tired to look now, will have a go tomorrow if someone else doesn't get there first.

[kiddygal88]

thank you

[Rachel Scand]

There's a William on the IGI ... born in Kidderminster, Worcester .... with mother Ann Wassell


This should be the link ...

FamilySearch.org - Search

[Rachel Scand]

1851 census ... may be them ?


- Ancestry.co.uk

William Wassel ... 5 months born in Kidderminster

Mother Ann Wassel (widow) ... Greengrocer (employing one man)

children :-
Phillip
Mary
Joseph
Adam
Catherine
Elizabeth
Thomas
William



hope this makes sense ... off to bed now....

[Rachel Scand]

I think this is the same family in 1841 ... it's not easy to read ! and the surname is transcribed as Wash

Head of household Adam ... so may not be yours after all


- Ancestry.co.uk

[kiddygal88]

thank you rachel i haven't got her with any other children so i will look that up thank you very much in 1851 she has been widowed but i have got her in 1881 to have married a joseph does that mean that cud be another marriage and not be williams father ?

[Rachel Scand]

Hi there
I missed out Adam from the 1851 census :( .... have now added him

She could well have remarried at any time but
I didn't look at 1871 or 1881 ... wasn't really awake

Will have a look now

[Rachel Scand]

If Ann and Joseph Wassell (1881) are the correct ones then the family I found is an unlikely match unless Ann remarried another Wassell.

Do you have William's marriage cert. ?
That should give you the father's name and occupation

[Elaine ..Spain]

I am researching a Wassell Family line And i am little Stuck Ive found William Wassell married to a harriet But i am having trouble finding william's parent i belive to think there called Ann N Joseph I have found them in the 1881 census 1971 census but having trouble finmding them in 1861,51,41

What is the place and year of birth for William.
Which census have you found them in? Can you give the reference.
Presuming the William married to Harriet is the one you are after, do you have their marriage certificate?

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Just to confuse the issue a bit!

There's these in 1881 who I presume are the people you need to trace back:

William WASSELL M 30 Canal Boatman b Stourport, Worcester
Harriot WASSELL M 27 Boatmans Wife b Stourport, Worcester
Sarah Ann WASSELL 8 Scholar b Stourport, Worcester, England
Joseph WASSELL 3 Scholar b Stourport, Worcester
Harriot E. WASSELL 2 Stourport, Worcester

at Kinver, Stafford.

Now, as well as William aged 5 months b Kidderbinster with mother Ann etc in 1851 which Rachel posted earlier, there's also a William aged 1, born Stourport on the 1851 as well.

HO107; Piece: 2038; Folio: 126; Page: 9;

He's a visitor in the house of some people called Rawlings. There's another Wassell there too.....Esther aged 12 b Stourport.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

This may be the birth regfor the William from Stourport, but I can't see a second birth reg for the one aged 5 months at the 1851 census date.

Births Jun 1850

Wassell William Daniel Kidderminster 18 433

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

In 1881 there's also this William who might possibly be more likely to be the child of Ann the greengrocer:

William WASSALL Head M 30 Fishmonger b Kidderminster, Worcester
Esther WASSALL Wife M 27 b Chesterfield, Derby
Ann ARCHER Mother In Law W 57 b Chesterfield, Derby

at 31 Birmingham St, Dudley, Worcestershire

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

The following is probably the marriage for William Daniel, who was reg for birth in Q2 1850 and is probably the child without parents in 1851:

Marriages Dec 1871
Price Harriet Kidderminster 6c 446
Wassell William Daniel Kidderminster 6c 446

Now I've been looking at Joseph and Ann (Doubt it's the same Ann as was a widowed greengrocer in 1851)

In 1871 William is Joseph's son and in 1861 William Joseph's brother!!!

I wonder which one is wrong???!! lol

1871: RG10; Piece: 2996; Folio: 27; Page: 47
1861: RG9; Piece: 2081; Folio: 50; Page: 18

Anyway, if the one you want is the one who married Harriet Price, then you will probably need both his marriage and birth certs to sort this out!! lol

Have fun

[Rachel Scand]

The IGI link I posted before doesn't actually take you there ! ! !

It's for the Christening of a William Wassall ... 1st Dec 1850 Kidderminster... mother Ann Wassall

It's extracted

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

The IGI link I posted before doesn't actually take you there ! ! !

It's for the Christening of a William Wassall ... 1st Dec 1850 Kidderminster... mother Ann Wassall

It's extracted

lol Rachel!!


I presume that would be the greengrocer's son? (as he doesn't have a middle name....)

I think we need kiddygal88 to come back and let us know her connection to William b 1850, in order to establish which one is the right one!

But I'm off to take children to cubs.......

[Rachel Scand]

:D Hi Merry ... yes ... I thought that William fitted very nicely !

it all seemed quite logical in the early hours

[kiddygal88]

sorry haven't been back in contact popped out i haven't got any of the certificates only really just started william was born in around 1852 and i have him in the 1881 and 1871 census i have found his marriage on the BMD

[kiddygal88]

thank you Merry and Rachel thats the ones i have found it confused me with the brother and the father bit too thats where i have got stuck i'm very great full for all the help its just a bit difficult to work out