1891 - I know he's there somewhere

[samesizedfeet]

Having a spot of bother.

Got a death certificate today to confirm which one of two possibles was my 3 x great grandfather Charles Gloster.

All hunkydory and I got the right one Charles Gloster aged 81 formerly Coach Plater of the parish of St Pauls Covent Garden. he died in the Strand Union Workhouse. died 7th May 1900.

Here's my confusion..... you lot helped me decide which one to order by working out some bits from the 1891 census where there's a similar entry for a Charles Gloster born in London - but now I can't find my Charles Gloster in 1891.

I know I'm going bonkers


He's very unsure of his birthplace and varies between Handsworth in Staffordshire, Birmingham, Walsall and Yorkshire!!
everything points to it actually being Handsworth but who knows where he was saying it was in 1891.

his wife is Jane born c1825 in Walsall.

Help, please.

Yours in a quivering curled up ball

Zoe

xx

[samesizedfeet]

p.s. I have all the addresses from 1841 - 1881 if anyone thinks it will help.

[Little Nell]

RG12; Piece: 124; Folio 137; Page 35 has a Charles W Coster which has been corrected to Gloster, says he's born Walsall, Staffs, but his wife is Alice.

[Little Nell]

Sorry Zoe.

I tried Charles Glo* and just Charles with wife Jane and then Jane no surname born Walsall. Zilch. Da nada.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Re last post......Jane was dead:

Deaths Q2 1882
Gloster Jane 57 Holborn 1b 401

so could he have remarried?

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Oh, Charles with Alice is too young :o

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

He might be in an institution, listed with his initials only.

Trouble is, it's so easy for the initials to be mistranscribed and the birthplace to be NK

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

This should keep you quiet

From: Workhouse - the Story of Workhouses (searched for Strand)

Records
City of Westminster Archives Centre, 10 St Ann's Street, London SW1P 2DE.
St Anne, Soho — holdings include: Board of guardians overseers' minutes (1849-1900), Overseers' accounts (1719-1860), Settlement papers and removal orders (1736-1835, indexed), Indemnification bonds (1686-1742), Petition for poor relief (1822), Miscellaneous letters and orders (1782-1822), Workhouse admissions list (1781-2), Workhouse work books (1785-1838), Workhouse administrative records and accounts (1781-1836), Apprenticeship register and indentures (1686-1834), Bastardy registers (1790-1825), Records of poor children and nursery (1789-1793,1818-1838).
St Clement Danes — holdings include: Overseers' and churchwardens' minutes (1779-1850, 1878-1900), Overseers' accounts (1604-1900), Settlement examination books (1703-07, 1739-1836, indexed 1739-1836), Settlement registers (1699-1707, c1715-1750), Settlement and removal legal papers (1806-1836), Settlement certificates (1701-71), Petitions for poor relief (1809-1836), Lists of workhouse inmates incl. admission and discharge details (1785, 1834), Workhouse clothing books (1785-1796), Workhouse administrative records/accounts (1788-1834), Bastardy examination books (1786-1798, 1809-1818 indexed), Bastardy bonds (1641, 1705), Records of poor children and nurses (1719-1727,1767-1822), Nursery accounts (1832-1836).


London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road, London EC1R OHB.
Cleveland Street holdings: Admissions and discharges (1856-1913).
Edmonton workhouse holdings include: Admissions and discharges (1870-1913); Baptisms (1884-1927); Deaths (1903-13); etc.
Sheffield Street receiving workhouse holdings include: Admissions and discharges (1890-1913); Creed registers (1908-13); Births (1890-1913); Deaths (1890-1913); etc.
Millfield School holdings: Admissions and discharges (1851-1913); Creed registers (1875-1913); Attendance registers (1894-1904).
Other holdings include: Guardians' minute books (1836-1915); Financial records (1846-1910); Staff records (1856-1913); etc.

[Uncle John]

Is that what's called killing with kindness?? Like stuffing a jeely piece in the mouth to stop the wain wailing.

[samesizedfeet]

sorry all - got distracted with another cert tat arrived today (more of that later)

Charles W Coster (the correction) is his son

And yes - you're right, Jane was dead. Sorry - I was in a tizz and I was looking at the date of death for his daughter in law which was 1919 (funnily enough Alice as above) without thinking that that was a bit too late for Jane.


I think I need to go to bed and wake fresh on all this as I'm now in a muddle over my Fenton branch and I can't make sense of anything.

[samesizedfeet]

This should keep you quiet

From: Workhouse - the Story of Workhouses (searched for Strand)

Records
City of Westminster Archives Centre, 10 St Ann's Street, London SW1P 2DE.
St Anne, Soho — holdings include: Board of guardians overseers' minutes (1849-1900), Overseers' accounts (1719-1860), Settlement papers and removal orders (1736-1835, indexed), Indemnification bonds (1686-1742), Petition for poor relief (1822), Miscellaneous letters and orders (1782-1822), Workhouse admissions list (1781-2), Workhouse work books (1785-1838), Workhouse administrative records and accounts (1781-1836), Apprenticeship register and indentures (1686-1834), Bastardy registers (1790-1825), Records of poor children and nursery (1789-1793,1818-1838).
St Clement Danes — holdings include: Overseers' and churchwardens' minutes (1779-1850, 1878-1900), Overseers' accounts (1604-1900), Settlement examination books (1703-07, 1739-1836, indexed 1739-1836), Settlement registers (1699-1707, c1715-1750), Settlement and removal legal papers (1806-1836), Settlement certificates (1701-71), Petitions for poor relief (1809-1836), Lists of workhouse inmates incl. admission and discharge details (1785, 1834), Workhouse clothing books (1785-1796), Workhouse administrative records/accounts (1788-1834), Bastardy examination books (1786-1798, 1809-1818 indexed), Bastardy bonds (1641, 1705), Records of poor children and nurses (1719-1727,1767-1822), Nursery accounts (1832-1836).


London Metropolitan Archives, 40 Northampton Road, London EC1R OHB.
Cleveland Street holdings: Admissions and discharges (1856-1913).
Edmonton workhouse holdings include: Admissions and discharges (1870-1913); Baptisms (1884-1927); Deaths (1903-13); etc.
Sheffield Street receiving workhouse holdings include: Admissions and discharges (1890-1913); Creed registers (1908-13); Births (1890-1913); Deaths (1890-1913); etc.
Millfield School holdings: Admissions and discharges (1851-1913); Creed registers (1875-1913); Attendance registers (1894-1904).
Other holdings include: Guardians' minute books (1836-1915); Financial records (1846-1910); Staff records (1856-1913); etc.

*reaches for vodka bottle*