Marriage look up please

[margaret kenyon]

sorted thanks

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

We will need to find him on earlier censuses. Which one is he on 1881?

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

What makes you think he would have married the first time as early as 1845?

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I can't find a Henry Mason b 1844 (or within two years each way) with wife Eliza on the 1881 census.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

What are the birth details for your grandparent; the child of this couple?

[margaret kenyon]

Re Marriage look up

Hi Monty, I found him 1881 census on Ancestry many years ago, estimated birth 1844 living 26, Church st Old Prince of Wales Inn. Maybe 1845 is a bit early for him to have married first time ,bad guess, The birth details of my grandmother, their daughter are Margaret Mary Mason ,looks like 13th of April cant make out its either 1883 or 1886 b 26,Church st Beaumaris, father, John Henry Mason Baker & confectioner ,mother Eliza formely Williams,they had another daughter Rosina b 1879 Warrington Lancashire, regards Margaret.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

And Prince of Wales Inn is where?

Beaumaris sounds like it's in Wales, but there's no birth reg in 1883 or 1886, though there is one in 1885:


Births Q2 1885
Mason Margaret Mary Bangor 11b 484

[margaret kenyon]

Re marriage look up

Sorry Monty, yes Beaumaris is in Angelsey Wales. 1885 must be the one the writing on birth certificate was hard to read. Regards Margaret.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Oh, was he John on the census by any chance? I've been looking for Henry as you didn't mention that wasn't his full name!!

I am starting to feel frustrated!

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Ah 1881:

Henry Jno. MASON Head M 37 Baker & Confectioner London Little Moorfield, London, Middlesex,
Eliza MASON Wife M 32 Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales
Rosina MASON Daur 1 Warrington, Lancashire, England

26 Church St Old Prince Of Wales Inn
Beaumaris, Anglesey, Wales


Thank goodness for that!!

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Rosina was away from her parents in 1891. (with mum's sister)

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

Doh!! He's not 37 in 1881, he's 51 :( (on the census page)

[margaret kenyon]

Hi Monty, yes I know how you feel, Ive found him down as Henry John
and John Henry, and since getting this marriage cert Im more confused than ever, anyway thanks for trying . Margaret.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I haven't even started yet, Margaret.

I've seen your threads on GR and some other forum asking about Little Moorfield. Did you find out where that is exactly?

Do you know which coutry the family were in in 1891 and 1901?

Do you know when Mr Mason died?

Did you realise his age was incorrectly transcribed in 1881?

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I've got Margaret and Rosie in 1901.

I need to know if you have found Margaret in 1891 as she might be with her parents.

I'm sorry, but we need as much info as possible in order to trace Henry before he married Eliza.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I've looked at all the bakers and confectioners called Mason in 1861, but can't see a likely candidate.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

I expect this is another of their children:


Births Q2 1884

Mason Elizabeth Bangor 11b 491

She is with a Williams cousin in 1891 and a servant like Rosina and Margaret in 1901.

This may be another child of theirs:

Births Q3 1882
Mason Male Bangor 11b 495

Deaths Q3 1882
Mason Male 0 Bangor 11b 286

and mum's death?

Deaths Q2 1889
Mason Eliza 40 Bangor 11b 332

[margaret kenyon]

Re marriage lookup

Hi Monty,I also found Margaret and Rosie in1901 but cant find them in 1891,
I know H J is supposed to be 37 in 1881 but on this marriage cert to Eliza in 1878 he is 48,some body must be telling porkys it is a tangled web isnt it
Regards Margaret.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

No. He isn't 37 in 1881, he's recorded as 51.

37 is only a transcription and it's wrong.

I'll get you the refs for 1891.

[Merry Monty Montgomery]

1901 ref for possible third sister (Lizzie):

RG13; Piece: 5293; Folio: 57; Page: 6

Rosina in 1891:

RG12; Piece: 4676; Folio 59; Page 7

Lizzie in 1891:

RG12; Piece: 4676; Folio 83; Page 4

I can't see Margaret in 1891 :o