My head is hurting so much I don't know if I can even explain my problem, lol!
FACT: Marriage cert 25 August 1876.
William Mckenzie age 21, (illiterate) Shore Labourer, bachelor.
Father William McKenzie, Carter. (correct)
Mother: Agness Gerrie, deceased (*problem 1)
to
Elizabeth Keith Wyness, 20, spinster.
Father John Nisbett Wyness Ship's carpenter journeyman (correct)
Mother: Elsie Gerrie (deceased) (*problem 2)
Problem 1.
I have found William McKenzie, a carter, in 1851,61 and 71, at the same address thankfully.
In 1851, he has a daughter, Alexandrina aged 3.
A servant, Agnes GARIOCH aged 35
An orphan boy, John Cattenach aged 6.
(No wife at home, and Scottish census do not state married, widower, etc)
In 1861, William has a wife, AGNES, a DAUGHTER Alexander,aged 12, a son William (my man) aged 7 and a son Robert aged 1. Also, a boarder, John CATTO, aged 16.
(I suspect the information is wildly mistranscribed as the ages are all over the place - but it is the right address and the right occupation, and follows through to 1871)
I have found birth registrations for my William,(1856) and for a Betsy Dow McKenzie (1859) parents William McKenzie and Agnes GARIOCH.
No marriage between William Mackenzie and Agnes Garioch (or Gerrie/y) BUT a marriage between William and Agnes WILSON in 1844. No baptisms for Alexandrina and Robert.
So - was Agness a Garioch or a Gerrie? William Junior calls a daughter Agnes Gerrie. Or were there two Agnesses?
Problem 2.
John Nisbett Wyness married Elspet Douglas GRAY (from church records).
Umpteen children, including Elspet Nicol Wyness and Elizabeth Wyness. All baptisms found EXCEPT Elizabeth Keith Wyness!!!
Orphan John Catto turns out to be the son of one Elspet Nicol Wyness...
Is it safe to assume, haha, that as William McKenzie was illiterate, he did not realise that the Minister had recorded his mother's name wrong, and that of his wife's mother???
I honestly don't expect any help with this, but I needed to write it down to clear my head (I think).
OC
FACT: Marriage cert 25 August 1876.
William Mckenzie age 21, (illiterate) Shore Labourer, bachelor.
Father William McKenzie, Carter. (correct)
Mother: Agness Gerrie, deceased (*problem 1)
to
Elizabeth Keith Wyness, 20, spinster.
Father John Nisbett Wyness Ship's carpenter journeyman (correct)
Mother: Elsie Gerrie (deceased) (*problem 2)
Problem 1.
I have found William McKenzie, a carter, in 1851,61 and 71, at the same address thankfully.
In 1851, he has a daughter, Alexandrina aged 3.
A servant, Agnes GARIOCH aged 35
An orphan boy, John Cattenach aged 6.
(No wife at home, and Scottish census do not state married, widower, etc)
In 1861, William has a wife, AGNES, a DAUGHTER Alexander,aged 12, a son William (my man) aged 7 and a son Robert aged 1. Also, a boarder, John CATTO, aged 16.
(I suspect the information is wildly mistranscribed as the ages are all over the place - but it is the right address and the right occupation, and follows through to 1871)
I have found birth registrations for my William,(1856) and for a Betsy Dow McKenzie (1859) parents William McKenzie and Agnes GARIOCH.
No marriage between William Mackenzie and Agnes Garioch (or Gerrie/y) BUT a marriage between William and Agnes WILSON in 1844. No baptisms for Alexandrina and Robert.
So - was Agness a Garioch or a Gerrie? William Junior calls a daughter Agnes Gerrie. Or were there two Agnesses?
Problem 2.
John Nisbett Wyness married Elspet Douglas GRAY (from church records).
Umpteen children, including Elspet Nicol Wyness and Elizabeth Wyness. All baptisms found EXCEPT Elizabeth Keith Wyness!!!
Orphan John Catto turns out to be the son of one Elspet Nicol Wyness...
Is it safe to assume, haha, that as William McKenzie was illiterate, he did not realise that the Minister had recorded his mother's name wrong, and that of his wife's mother???
I honestly don't expect any help with this, but I needed to write it down to clear my head (I think).
OC
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