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Harrys mum
27-12-07, 04:58
Hello...


I'm back into my grandfather's side and was wondering if there are any new passenger lists to NZ available. I can't see any when I google.

I'm looking at between 1865ish and 1880ish, probably Taranaki region as my great grandfather married in 1883 in Wanganui and my grandfather was born 1885 in Patea.

Thanks.

Libby.

KiwiChris
27-12-07, 05:01
Nothing new that I know of. I presume you have seen this?

Passenger Lists (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourstuff/OurPassengerLists.htm)

There are a lot of Taranaki news papers searchable on papars past, hang on, I will find the link

Here it is

Papers Past (http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast)

Harrys mum
27-12-07, 05:05
Thanks Chris....

I think I've exhausted that Passenegr List, but I'll check the new ones.

As for Papers Past, I've spent the last week there. Nearly cancelled Christmas.
I've found school reports and funeral notices. Been great.

KiwiChris
27-12-07, 05:08
Isn't paperspast wonderful! I have found a heap of family gossip via the court notices! :D

Lyn A
27-12-07, 05:14
Have you tried this one, Libby?

Ships To New Plymouth (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz/newplymouth.html)

Mind you they could have arrived at almost any port & travelled to Taranaki.

Lyn A
27-12-07, 05:16
Just saw the heading on that page....still waiting for a few to arrive by the dates it covers. LOL!!!!

KiwiChris
27-12-07, 05:21
That is a new one for me Lyn, but wouldn't you know it, the sailings that some of my lot may have been on do not have passenger lists! :D

Harrys mum
27-12-07, 05:23
Thanks Lyn.....Yes, maybe his hsan't got there yet!!!!!

No still not there. His wife isn't on any either.

Do you know if there are more in the Archives or somewhere taht haven't been put on the web?

KiwiChris
27-12-07, 05:27
Yes I think there are many more that have not been transcribed. I have not really looked myself, but I understand that there are lists for assisted immigrants that are easier to search than those for the people who paid their own way.

Harrys mum
27-12-07, 05:30
Thanks Chris..............might have to enthuse one of the many rellies still there.......or come over myself. OOOH the thought of cold weather....I might be able to use my thermals again.

Lyn A
27-12-07, 05:33
Did you notice the dates they said they cover???

SHIPS TO NEW ZEALAND
Between 1835 and 11910


PMSL!!!

KiwiChris
27-12-07, 05:38
Oh, I did not read the important bits!

:D:D:p

Harrys mum
27-12-07, 05:45
I did!!!!lol

Lyn A
27-12-07, 05:49
That is a new one for me Lyn, but wouldn't you know it, the sailings that some of my lot may have been on do not have passenger lists! :D


The Feeks are there!! They are yours, aren't they?

KiwiChris
27-12-07, 05:55
They are indeed, and I saw them! But I need some Corbetts arriving about 1855/6. There are some earlier that are mine but I need their parents.

Harrys mum
27-12-07, 06:02
OK guys.......while you're looking......I'll have any Bowlers, Londrigans, Husseys.

Thanks, I'll pop back later and see what you've found. LOLOLOLOL

Jacqueline
28-12-07, 23:44
Have you tried the ships list..Ive found quite a few Kiwi connections there.

TheShipsList: Passengers, Ships, Shipwrecks (http://www.theshipslist.com)

Jackie ( ex KIWI )

Harrys mum
29-12-07, 01:07
Thanks Jackie...............haven't seen that one!!!

As soon as grandson leaves, you know where I'll be.

Libby.

Pippa Doll
29-12-07, 01:40
Just as an extra I work with 2 Husseys!

Lyn A
29-12-07, 01:44
Just as an extra I work with 2 Husseys!


Ooo, Pippa, don't think I fancy your job!!!! LOL!!!! :D

Harrys mum
29-12-07, 02:06
Pippa...................see if they are related to a fellow who was murdered in a field in Ireland.................some time in the 1800s?

They'll know....it would have been big news....wouldn't it? lol

Lyn A
29-12-07, 02:20
OK guys.......while you're looking......I'll have any Bowlers, Londrigans, Husseys.

Thanks, I'll pop back later and see what you've found. LOLOLOLOL


Libby, Would 1853 be too early for your Bowlers?

Lyn A
29-12-07, 02:21
And who are your Husseys?

Harrys mum
29-12-07, 04:55
Hi Lyn,

I have (from PRs in Kerry, so should be correct):

Baptisms for the children of Patrick Bowler and Deborah Brosnan

Mary 1848
John 1849
John 1850 (I'd say the first one died)
Patrick 1852
Michael 1852
Margaret 1857.

John and Patrick went to NZ so I think not before about 1870??
However, I get the impression there could have been an uncle (also Bolwer) already in NZ.
John married Brigid Kirby (not sure where or when).
Patrick married Hannah Londrigan 1883 in Wanganui.

Mary Bowler b.1848 married Michael Hussey in 1868 in Kerry. They had a daughters, Deborah and Johanna born 1869 and 1870ish. There were also sons.

Michael Hussey was murdered (mistaken idendity) in a field in Farranfore, Kerry. Not sure of the year, but his two daughters were sent to thier uncles in NZ as there was no dowry for them. The Hussey sons took over the family farm in Kerry.


So to answer your question.............if one of Patrick Bowler's (senior) brothers went to NZ, then 1853 could be about perfect. I did find one "Mr Bowler" on a passenger list around that time, but can't get any more info on him.

Libby.

Lyn A
29-12-07, 05:36
Hi Lyn,

I did find one "Mr Bowler" on a passenger list around that time, but can't get any more info on him.

Libby.


Sounds like the same one I found!! LOL!!

I have to go & put dinner on...have just spent 2hrs yakking to my sister in Rockingham, so haven't done what I wanted this afternoon. I was planning to look at a few more passenger lists & then do some hunting of cemeteries for my rellies...will include your Bowlers in my searches.

Fingers crossed...if I can't find mine, maybe I can find yours! ;)

Harrys mum
29-12-07, 05:48
Thanks Lyn.........
I have visitors for dinner, but will try to get back later.

I have quite a few in Te Henui cemetery. I have a photo of the headstone, but they are Bowlers. Not sure of the Kirbys or Husseys, but the families are mostly North Island.

Libby.

Lyn A
29-12-07, 05:53
Are any of these yours, Libby?

Auckland War Memorial Museum Cenotaph Database (http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/cenotaph/SearchResults.aspx?Page=1&SearchID=626956)

Cornelius Patrick is buried at Eltham...search here:

Cemetery Register (http://public.stdc.govt.nz/cemeteries/)

Harrys mum
29-12-07, 06:45
Lyn...........Cornelius Patrick is my grandfather's brother. Not sure about any of the others.
My grandfather was Michael Bowler and did serve with the NZ ANZACS but he came to Australia about 1925 and lived till 1972, so that wouldn't be him on the Cenotaph site, would it??

Harrys mum
29-12-07, 06:46
OOOOOHH Lyn..............didn't think to open the names duh!!!!

Yes that Michael is my grandfather!!! How lovely.

Thank you.

Lyn A
29-12-07, 06:50
You're welcome....did you get Cornelius' burial record?

I did wonder about the Terence, Daniel & Timothy as well.

Harrys mum
29-12-07, 06:55
Yes I did get Cornelius' burial thanks.

Not sure about the others. I'll try to work it out.

Lyn A
29-12-07, 09:19
Hi Lyn,

So to answer your question.............if one of Patrick Bowler's (senior) brothers went to NZ, then 1853 could be about perfect. I did find one "Mr Bowler" on a passenger list around that time, but can't get any more info on him.

Libby.

I found a Richard Bowler, died 1911 aged 91. Could be the mr Bowler of 1853.