Ive been really lucky and managed to get hold of some pics of my grandad in his army days I was just wondering if anyone could help me to date them?
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can any one help to date these
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Hi OC,
I agree that it would be dangerous to judge on one item alone when dating a photograph and maybe on this occassion I should have worded my posting differently and added the rider of " I would suggest" at the start of my posting however the point of my posting was initially to point out that the uniform did in fact change in 1942 and pleating as I have already said disappeared from battle dress uniforms. At the same time as the pleats going so did some of the flaps on the uniforms and buttons started to be left uncovered which in turn makes it easier to date post austerity battle dress against that of pre austerity.
Occassionally, with uniforms, one can base a date or date line on a slight change whether it be the type of headwear, as with the soldier wearing a beret against a service cap (depending on regiment), type and style of webbing, or even just down to collar dogs being worn.
As for the wearing of striped shirts when playing football the regiments would have followed the universal fashion of the sporting world. Pictures that I have seen of prewar fixtures between regimental battalions playing field sports, football, rugby, hockey etc all have the teams in plain,quartered, striped, hooped,and half coloured kits and this was carried on through the war (albeit on a smaller scale and usually at training camp or rest camp).
don
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I have just found my Grandfathers obituary and it says he joined the 11TH RTR in 1924 and served untill the end of the 2ww so this gives me some idea as I can take a guess at his age in the pics and put a rough date on from that I can now also tell you that the last pic was taken in Rafar as my aunt has found the original and It says on the back 'packing up at Rafar' no date unfortunately!
Thanks for all your help though
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