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Katarzyna
04-10-19, 13:03
Zaccheus Hutton was b c1820 Saltfleetby Lincs
Records from FMPinclude:
Served in the Army 1836 to 1860.
1841 Toronto, Ontario,Canada with Royal Artillary.

20280

1854-55 Crimea
1860- Chelsea Pensioner

1861 Census in Hull,Yorks b1816 Saltfleetby Married with son Jonas age 9 born Canada. No sign of "wife".
Zaccheus died 10 Apr1862. buried at Saltfleetby.
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8767&h=11944248&ssrc=pt&tid=72618257&pid=130183931898&usePUB=true
Workhouse Admissions and Discharges show Jonas age 12 with mother Eliza Hutton age 40(Widow of soldier) in Greenwich Workhouse 1863 - 1864. Charges to Woolwich Parish.
Apart from a School Register saying mother in workhouse I can find nothing more at all.

Can anyone find Jonas's birth in Canada and any other info for them after 1863?
Thanks
PS. There is a tree on Ancestry but a lot of the info is wrong!

GallowayLass
04-10-19, 13:23
On FindMyPast.

Record Transcription:
Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
First name(s) Jonas
Last name Hutton
Sex Male
Birth year 1851
Place Kingston
Country Canada
Regiment Royal Artillery
Organisation Armed Forces
Source Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
Archive
General Register Office
Archive reference REG1
Record's year range 1851
Page 31
Volume 82
Line number 108
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

GallowayLass
04-10-19, 13:36
Did he acquire another forename by any chance and head back up north?

Record set Index To Death Duty Registers 1796-1903
First name(s) Jonas Foster
Last name Hutton
Death year 1889
County -
Court Court of Probate
Residence GT GRIMSBY
National Archives reference IR27/489
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Wills & Probate

Katarzyna
04-10-19, 13:53
Thanks for that GL.
No. Jonas Foster Hutton was Zaccheus's brother.

GallowayLass
04-10-19, 14:39
Ah well 50% strike rate, will take that LOL Might be worth getting that will in case he left something to his namesake nephew?

Katarzyna
04-10-19, 14:58
£19 3s 4d won't go very far! He had 16 children - admittedly only 6 survived him.

Katarzyna
04-10-19, 15:14
I was hoping for a baptism for Jonas in Canada - don't know how I missed that birth. I have British Army baps from the Cape, South Africa c1860-65 but the Army records were more detailed about where they were posted so much easier to find.

GallowayLass
04-10-19, 15:19
£19 3s 4d won't go very far! He had 16 children - admittedly only 6 survived him.

LOL I thought I might find a baptism too but no joy in ancestry or FMP so far.

Elaine
04-10-19, 22:01
Did you find this ref.?

https://www.ontariogenealogy.com/uppercanadamarriages.html

HARKLEY ELIZA .. HUTTON ZACHEUS .. 1843

Elaine
04-10-19, 22:10
Just found it

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2C1-LXJF

Laccheus Hutton
Eliza Arkley

Elaine
04-10-19, 22:34
Just having a look at this couple marrying in Greenwich

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=5538&db=LMAmarriages&indiv=try&h=7739331

London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Elizabeth Hutton
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 40
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1824
Marriage Date: 3 Dec 1864
Marriage Place: St Thomas, Charlton, Greenwich, England
Father: Joseph Hearkley
Spouse: Henry Grocott

Katarzyna
05-10-19, 01:17
Woo Hoo! Thanks for the marriage Elaine.:) Just got back from Sheffield after seeing 'We will Rock You' so doubly happy tonight.
That all ties in with the 2nd marriage. I had seen this marriage and have it in my shoe box but couldn't connect it not having a maiden name for Eliza/beth.
Henry was a gunner in the Royal Artillery too and joined up in 1846 age 22. He was in Canada, Crimea and India and a Chelsea Pensioner from 1847 so must have known Zaccheus.
He was a butcher by trade so will look for them tomorrow now hoping Jonas is with them. Thanks again :)

Elaine
05-10-19, 20:23
Hi Kat

I couldn't find them 1871 but believe they both died after 1871 looking at death regs. Have you had any luck?

Just delving back in!

Katarzyna
05-10-19, 22:45
I had a look this morning quickly as have had busy day . I found this one for Eliza b Ireland. What do you think?

NameEliza Grocott
Age 66
Estimated Birth Year abt 1815
Relationship to Head Lodger
Where born Ireland
Civil parish Woolwich
County/Island London
Country England
Street Address 1 Morris Place
Marital Status Widow
Occupation Annuitant ...........(pension from the army perhaps???)
Registration district Woolwich
Sub registration district Woolwich Dockyard
ED, institution, or vessel 13
Piece 744 Folio 108 Page number 39

DOB a bit out but then we haven't had any baptism or census to go on. I wonder if she went to Canada with her parents from Ireland and met Zaccheus there.

Katarzyna
05-10-19, 23:03
Sorry that's the 1881 census. I cannot find her on 1871.

Elaine
06-10-19, 12:07
Will have a look later Kat

cbcarolyn
06-10-19, 15:34
not sure if this is your Elizabeth:
20289

Elaine
06-10-19, 20:43
Certainly plausible Kat looking at other Elizabeth's with a poss death 1890 Q3 Dartford 2A/251; at a loss 1871.

Found this burial

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=60637&h=46762&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=FhD26304&_phstart=successSource

Bexley, Kent, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985
Name: Elizabeth Grocott
[Eliza. Grocott]
Age: 74
Birth Year: abt 1816
Burial Date: 30 Aug 1890
Burial Place: Erith, Kent, England
Chapelry: St John the Baptist
Parish as it Appears: Erith

She died at the workhouse in Gravesend

Elaine
06-10-19, 22:27
I think Henry's death is the Uxbridge one 1873, death noted in the 1873 col.

cbcarolyn
06-10-19, 22:48
not sure if this is your Elizabeth:
20289

Waverley cottages (and the streets nearby) has soldiers living in them in 1871, so assume that they are owned by the military, not that I can see her there.

cbcarolyn
06-10-19, 23:09
I think Henry's death is the Uxbridge one 1873, death noted in the 1873 col.
Good find, I had seen the death reg, where are you able to see these records?

Elaine
06-10-19, 23:13
They are in the military records FMP, searching world rather than England brought up more.

cbcarolyn
06-10-19, 23:21
They are in the military records FMP, searching world rather than England brought up more.
only just started using FMP, will have to look for a couple of my family might be there. :)

Katarzyna
07-10-19, 00:23
Thank you both for the latest info. Will have a look at it all tomorrow. Have had visitors today so been peaking off and on and I'm too tired now to digest it all. Am going to have to order the deaths I think.