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Holly
11-07-19, 15:42
Hello,

I'm looking at this Birth Entry Registered in the Ulverston Union, Lancashire.

WILSON, WILLIAM KEAN MMN: KEAN
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION Volume 08E Page 609

I can't find him after that, - but perhaps he dropped the middle name?

Looks like Kean was the Mother's Maiden name.

Can anyone else see him please?

Cheers, Holly.

fran
11-07-19, 16:17
There is a marriage in Ulverston,4th quarter 1858 between William Wilson and (one of 3 possibles)Hannah Kean

Katarzyna
11-07-19, 16:25
Baptism: 14 Oct 1859 St Cuthbert, Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England
William Kean Wilson - Son of William Wilson & Hannah
Abode: Mosshouses
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: Charles R. Graham
Register: Baptisms 1855 - 1877 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 78, Entry 620
Source: LDS Film 1040307



Perhaps one of these Deaths?
WILSON, WILLIAM 0
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION Volume 08E Page 406
WILSON, WILLIAM 1
GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION Volume 08E Page 402

Marriages Dec 1858
Kean Hannah Ulverstone 8e 840
Wilson William Ulverston 8e 840

GallowayLass
11-07-19, 16:32
Checked Scotland for you but no death or marriage that I can see using full name or mother’s ms which is recorded on death provided the informant knew it of course.

Holly
11-07-19, 16:49
Hi All,

Many thanks for looking.

I've ordered the PDF of the Birth Cert now, - although I doubt that it'll give me any more info than has been shown on here.

I wonder if the Marriage Cert between Hannah Kean and William Wilson is on-line anywhere?

I'd love to know who Hannah Kean's Father was...(!)

Thanks, Holly.

Katarzyna
11-07-19, 16:58
Possible birth for Hannah.

KEEN, HANNAH mmn VICKERS
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION Volume 25 Page 187

Marriage: 26 Nov 1858 St Cuthbert, Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England
William Wilson - 26, Husbandman, Bachelor, Doveford
Hannah Kean - 18, Spinster, Moss House
Groom's Father: William Wilson, Yeoman
Bride's Father: Isaac Kean, Farmer
Witness: James Deason; Agnes Stables
Married by Licence by: Charles R. Graham
Register: Marriages 1855 - 1877 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 113, Entry 226
Source: LDS Film 1040307

cbcarolyn
11-07-19, 16:58
Have you got any of the family on the 1861 census - or are you missing parents too?

Katarzyna
11-07-19, 17:06
Marriage: 28 Feb 1848 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
Isaac Keen - Full age, Sawyer, Widower, Ulverstone
Jane Pearson - Full age, Widow, Lindale
Groom's Father: Isaac Keen, Wood-dealer
Bride's Father: Arthur Pickthall, Farmer
Witness: John Braithwaite; Ann Pickthall
Married by: James M Morgan, Curate
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1855 from Bishop's Transcripts, Page 128, Entry 256
Source: LDS Film 1040304

Holly
11-07-19, 17:10
No Carolyn, I don't have them on the 1861.

I was trying to find the Bride's Father.

Thanks for the further Marriage Details Kat.

Holly.

Katarzyna
11-07-19, 17:11
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Dove Ford, Kirkby Ireleth Middle Quarter, Ulverston, Lancashire, England as in post#6
William Wilson Head Married Male 45 1806 Farmer Lancashire, England
Betty Wilson Wife Married Female 44 1807 - Lancashire, England
Mary A Wilson Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1830 Farmers Daughter Lancashire, England
William Wilson Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Farmers Son Lancashire, England
John Wilson Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Farmers Son Lancashire, England
Henry Wilson Son - Male 14 1837 Scholar Lancashire, England
Thomas Wilson Son - Male 11 1840 Scholar Lancashire, England
Isabella Agness Wilson Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Lancashire, England

Sylvia C
11-07-19, 17:21
Holly .............

If you did not know, you can find much information re baptisms, marriages and burials on the following site ...

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

it's free

William's baptism and Hannah and William's marrriage as posted by Kat are on there

Katarzyna
11-07-19, 17:22
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Lindale, Division or Chapelry of Ireleth, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Isaac Keen Head Married Male 39 1812 Sawyer Woodland, Lancashire, England
Jane Keen Wife Married Female 27 1824 Wife Dalton, Lancashire, England
Isaac Keen Son Unmarried Male 2 1849 Home Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Arthur Keen Son Unmarried Male 0 1851 Home Dalton, Lancashire, England
John Pearson Wife Son Unmarried Male 8 1843 Scholar Dalton, Lancashire, England
Robert Pearson Wife Son Unmarried Male 7 1844 Scholar Dalton, Lancashire, England
Martha Keen - Widow Female 81 1770 - Millom, Cumberland, England

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Extra Parochial of Moss House, Kirkby Ireleth, Ulverston, Lancashire, England as in post #6
Isaac Keen Male 35 1806 Lancashire, England
Sarah Keen Female 35 1806 - 1st wife?
Hannah Keen Female 1 1840 Lancashire, England
Sarah Walker Female 70 1771 Lancashire, England
John Kendall Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England
Agness Wilson Female 15 1826 Lancashire, England

Holly
11-07-19, 17:34
Thanks Sylvia,

I always forget about that Site! Thanks for reminding me, - I've been going round in circles on Ancestry!

Funnily enough, I was trying to find a link to a whole bunch of Keans in Ontario, - who are DNA Matches to me, - but originate from Lancashire.

And there is a chance that the William Kean Wilson, Born 1859, - could be my elusive Grandfather, who was calling himself 'William James Wilson' when he Married my Grandmother in Swansea in 1893.

Holly.

cbcarolyn
11-07-19, 19:39
is this him in 1861
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/8767/CULRG9_3951_3955-0759?pid=13297406&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D8767%26h%3D13297406%26t id%3D161314848%26pid%3D222114824593%26hid%3D104968 8153881%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DSZd15469%26_phs tart%3Ddefault%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26currentPageIsSt art%3D&treeid=161314848&personid=222114824593&hintid=1049688153881&usePUB=true&_phsrc=SZd15469&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.84568217.1601533914.1562612677-92375793.1535224975
william senior a Farmer

Holly
11-07-19, 20:11
Yes, I think so.

I just need to see if he's still in Ulverston after 1893 or not.

Holly.

cbcarolyn
11-07-19, 20:17
is this him in 1911
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2352/rg14_17614_0241_03?pid=57747465&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D2352%26h%3D57747465%26t id%3D161314848%26pid%3D222114842575%26hid%3D104968 8370569%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DSZd15504%26_phs tart%3Ddefault%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26currentPageIsSt art%3D&treeid=161314848&personid=222114842575&hintid=1049688370569&usePUB=true&_phsrc=SZd15504&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.9479221.1601533914.1562612677-92375793.1535224975 (https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2352/rg14_17614_0241_03?pid=57747465&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D2352%26h%3D57747465%26t id%3D161314848%26pid%3D222114842575%26hid%3D104968 8370569%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DSZd15504%26_phs tart%3Ddefault%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26currentPageIsSt art%3D&treeid=161314848&personid=222114842575&hintid=1049688370569&usePUB=true&_phsrc=SZd15504&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.9479221.1601533914.1562612677-92375793.1535224975)

Holly
11-07-19, 20:32
Well, - and so he wasn't my Grandfather then:-(

It was worth a try though, - thanks everyone for all of the help.

Holly.