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Kitchen R F
27-04-19, 01:47
Two Kirk brothers came out to Australia in the mid 1800's, I have found them and traced all of their families right up to the present day.
However I feel there was a third brother who joined them - James Kirk 1814-.

As hard as I have tried, I just cannot trace him.
David Kirk 1816-1888 arrived Port Phillip Bay, Australia on 26th January 1842, on the ship Robert Been from Greenock, Scotland.
Alexander Kirk 1818-1912, I have not found his entry port.

So in frustration I thought I'd try to contact any living Kirks.
This was six years ago, and recently on Facebook one of them replied!
Hence my post.

All this new John Kirk can tell me though, is that his Father William John Kirk died in 1987 in Henley NSW.

So with these two leads, one old and one new, if possible please, I would like to follow them up.

cbcarolyn
27-04-19, 09:31
So you are after UK records before he left, or Australia records.

can you give a bit more UK info on the 2 you have found, parents and place of birth, did you have them on 1841 census?

Matt Muir
27-04-19, 12:00
Hi and welcome.
Scotlandspeople records shows that a James Kirk was born 8 Nov 1814 at St Mungo parish,Dumfries. His parents are recorded as Robert Kirk and Betty Byers. They also had 2 sons
at the same location... Alexander born 9 Aug 1818 and David born 8 Sept 1816.
Could this be your James Kirk.

Matt

Kitchen R F
27-04-19, 14:24
Hi and welcome.
Scotlandspeople records shows that a James Kirk was born 8 Nov 1814 at St Mungo parish,Dumfries. His parents are recorded as Robert Kirk and Betty Byers. They also had 2 sons
at the same location... Alexander born 9 Aug 1818 and David born 8 Sept 1816.
Could this be your James Kirk.

Matt

Yes you have found the same, correct details.

Kitchen R F
27-04-19, 14:32
It is the Australian records that I am trying to pursue.
As I have not found him in Scotland, there is a good chance I feel that he might have joined his brothers, or have gone out with them.

Matt Muir
27-04-19, 19:49
You have Alexander with a year of death as 1912,with no known port of entry.
Did he have a wife Clementina who died 1909 and is buried with him at Municipal Cemetery,Golden Grove,S Australia.
If so there is a note on their headstone as follows " Died at Kirkland's Golden Grove.A colonist of 73 years,arrived at Pt Adelaide in ship Lysander 1839".
The Lysander sailed from Liverpool & arrived Adelaide on 20 July 1839.
If this is your Alexander & you can find any passenger records it might show if James travelled with him.
Matt

Kitchen R F
28-04-19, 00:56
Yes what you have said is correct, it's been a long time since I researched Alexander.
Then maybe as is the case now, passengersinhistory.sa.gov.au is confirming he came out on his own, aged 20, occupation farmer.

My hope has been that someone may have access to some records that bring up a James Kirk born in 1814.
The family outside of Alexander and David has been researched and documented extensively.