Scotlands People help, please!

[SmallTownGirl]

From another source (well, someone else's tree on Ancestry), I see that David Stark was b 4 Mar 1875 in Scotland (sometimes it says Glasgow, sometimes just Scotland). In the early 1900s he went with his wife to Canda, and died there on 25 June 1925.

I've searched on Scotlands People for a David Stark b 1875 and it's given me three possibles (one in Lochee, one in Partick and the third in Milton). Is there a way of narrowing it down further, without using credits, to get the "right" one, please?

I've not done much research in Scotland, so am not quite sure how the whole thing works!

Thanks
STG

[Chrissie Smiff]

You say the 'right' one, but do you know the parents names? If not, how would you know which was the right one? I aassume you mean by the exact birth date do you?

[JBee]

I would say it was a choice between Partick and Milton but probably not Lochee.

Have you found him in the census with parents or a baptism for him?

[Bertie]

Lochee is in Forfar / Angus. One A**try tree has him living Lochee, Angus 1881 parents David STARK & Agnes CRAWFORD, marrying Mary COCHRANE 1894 Dundee and Living Ontario 1911, dying Toronto 1933. SEEMS UNLIKELY

Partick is an area / district in Glasgow. One tree has him living Partick 1881 and Govan 1891 parents David STARK & Margaret BEASE. According to this tree had sister Rachel who deid Alberta. In 1891 he was a Plumber's Apprentice

Milton is an area / district in Glasgow. This MIGHT be the one who was in Rochester Kent in 1901 married to Amelia and a Soldier actually in the RMLI. One tree has him married to Amelia Ellen WHITE living in SASK and dying there in 1925 [there is more info but this is the gist - but nothing on parents]. I see the marriage was Q4 1899 Medway so is poss. available from Cityark [likely one of the Chatham Churches if not a Civil Marriage] so a way to ID the father

Hope this helps

[Bertie]

Are you sure he was born 1875? There are other David STARKS born Lanarkshire in other near years

[Bertie]

there is also this possibility in 1881 but not sure whether connected to the Milton birth:

Name: David Stark
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relationship: Son
Father's name: William Stark
Mother's name: Jane Stark
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 622/1
Registration district: Maryhill
Civil Parish: Maryhill
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 97 Gairbraid St.

[Bertie]

This is him in 1891:

Name: David Stark
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's name: William Stark
Mother's name: Jane Stark
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Registration Number: 644/8
Registration district: Milton
Civil Parish: Glasgow St George in the Fields
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 249 Garscube Rd
Occupation: Printer

[SmallTownGirl]

Thanks peeps.

It's the one who was in the RMLI in Kent in 1901 married to Amelia Ellen White that I'm interested in. What is CityArk, please?

Edited to say: Have found CityArk website, but no idea how to use it!

STG

[SmallTownGirl]

This is him in 1891:

Name:  David Stark
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's name: William Stark
Mother's name: Jane Stark
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Registration Number: 644/8
Registration district: Milton
Civil Parish: Glasgow St George in the Fields
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 249 Garscube Rd
Occupation: Printer

Honestly, I have no idea.

All I know about him is that he married Amelia Ellen White in Chatham RegDist in 1899 and then he left the UK with his family and settled in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. The dob I have is, as I said, from another Ancestry Tree, but they don't quote a source, nor any parents.

[SmallTownGirl]

Found the marriage on FreeReg. Says his father is John (deceased), a cabinet maker.

John eh? Now that's not a common name, is it? Arghhhhhhhhhhhhh!

STG

[Bertie]

Have you tried contacting the other tree to find out more?

[Guest]

Any chance this is the father John

John
Last name Stark
Relationship Lodger
Marital status Single
Sex Male
Age 47
Birth year 1834
Birth town -
Birth county -
Birth place Scotland
Birth place other as transcribed SCOTLAND
Occupation Cabinet Maker
House number 3
Street Moreton Terrace
Town -
Parish St George Hanover Square
County London, Middlesex
Country England
Registration district St George Hanover Square
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 104
Folio 22
Page 26
Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

[vera2013]

Found the marriage on FreeReg. Says his father is John (deceased), a cabinet maker.

John eh? Now that's not a common name, is it? Arghhhhhhhhhhhhh!

STG

That marriage says he was a Lance Cpl in the Lance Fusiliers. His father in law was a musician in the RMLI. Dec at time of marriage.

1901 David Private in the RMLI

FMP has a David Stark b Stirlingshire in the Lancs Fusiliers. Parents living Glasgow.

Vera

[vera2013]

Seems this David Stark previously in DLI and had an alias of David Miller whilst in the Seaforth Highlanders

Vera

[Guest]

you are clever Vera

[vera2013]

As I say, Val I have the time.

This could be him in 1881

John Miller 38 Master Joiner/Employer
b Carluke, Lanark
Ann Miller 27 Shamans, Stirling
Ann 8 Glasgow
David 6 Glasgow
Thomas 8/12 Glasgow
Ann Stark 66 Sharmans, Stirling

Living 19 Ronald St, Barony, Glasgow

1891 David not with family who are living at
Address shown in Army record for father.

Vera

[vera2013]

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo97%2f5985%2f075%2f002&parentid=gbm%2fwo97%2f5985%2f1067417

This is the link to the FMP enlistment in the Lancs Fusiliers, having previously been in the DLI and Seaforth Highlands, the latter as David Miller.

He was convicted on x 3 counts one of which was fraudulent enlistment.

Vera

[vera2013]

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo97%2f5985%2f076%2f001&parentid=gbm%2fwo97%2f5985%2f1067418

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo97%2f5985%2f075%2f002&parentid=gbm%2fwo97%2f5985%2f1067417

FMP David's enlistment as David Miller in the Seaforth Highlanders

David Miller b Barony, Glasgow. Aged 18 years 1 month. Occ Miner. Next of Kin father John Miller, 15 Willow Bank Street, Glasgow.

Attested 19/12/1892 SN 4457 Pte Seaforth Highlanders
Deserted 07/12/1893

Note on Record

Subsequently enlisted as David Stark (mother's maiden name} in the Durham Light Infantry SN 5077 and then transferred to the
Lancs Fusiliers SN 4915

Discharged 1905

Vera

[SmallTownGirl]

Thanks Vera. I'd seen the FMP David Stark before, but thought it must be another man because it didn't mention the RMLI. Then I found his 1899 marriage which has him in the Lancs Fusiliers, but hadn't gone back to the FMP military stuff for another look.

So he (David Stark/Miller) was in the Lancs Fusiliers, Durham Light Infantry, Seaforth Highlanders and the RMLI. Certainly got about a bit, didn't he?

STG

[vera2013]

He certainly did. Doubt he was in the RMLI unless that was under a different name. He was still in the Lancs Fusilers Reserves until 1905. He clearly had a love for the military and in fact he matured into a very good soldier with many campaigns, medals and clasps.

Vera