1851 scotland

[gloryer]

Does anybody have the actual images of 1851 census? I am sure I must have looked at it before but the image doesnt appear on ancestry. It is an Alexander McKerrow I am interested in but the transcription gives him as Alexr McKerrow aged 15. The household he is living with causes some confusion!!
My uncle had scribbled something about a half brother and this is where I believe it comes from, as he is listed as son in 1851 census living with a James Dickson at Craigburn Douglas Lanarkshire. He goes onto have a son called James Dickson McKerrow, There is also a Walter Dickson aged 22 at the same address so assume this is the half brother. Does this mean that the wife of James Dickson on 1851 census is the mother so she would be a Margaret McKerrow married to James Dickson?
I also believe this is the Walter Dickson mentioned in Castle Dangerous by Sir Walter Scott. I did hire the book from the library but found it hard going as it was written in a shakespearian style..

Any input welcome on this one.

[Elaine ..Spain]

Images for the Scottish census are only available on Scotlands People.
If you have previously paid to view the record then you should be able to find it again (without paying) under "saved searches".

[gloryer]

James Dickson 50
Margta Dickson 50
Elisabeth Dickson 28
Walter Dickson 22
Alexr Mckerrow 15
thats the transcription.
I suppose really I should be looking for the marriage or maiden name of Margaret Dickson

[gloryer]

Images for the Scottish census are only available on Scotlands People.
If you have previously paid to view the record then you should be able to find it again (without paying) under "saved searches".

I havent used scotlandspeople for many a year so no idea what my log in would be or indeed if I have the same e-mail address

[gloryer]

I am confusing myself!! I have Alexanders mother as Jane/Jean sloan and his father as John McKerrow, a famous draughts player in his day, so even if I found Margaret Dicksons maiden name it might not solve the puzzle, but interesting that Alexander called his son James Dickson Mckerrow, who then became as art master and had a painting in an exhibition in Glasgow.

[JudithM]

This won't help solve the puzzle but have you seen that Alexander was with the Dicksons in 1841 as well?
Transcribed in Ancestry as:
70 Janet Mathie 70
James Dickson 40
Margret Dickson 40
Walter Dickson 13
Mesander Mckerrow 5

[gloryer]

thank you Judith. I wonder who Janet Mathie is? Could she be Margarets mother?

[GallowayLass]

SP is now free to search, they dumped the 1 credit per page of results when the new platform went live.
If your Walter was born in Douglas parish, Lanarkshire then he was baptised 13 April 1828, son of James DICKSON and Margaret STOBO.
Margaret STOBO and James DICKSON married 10 August 1821 in Crawfordjohn parish, Lanarkshire.
Going by SP and FamilySearch.org Walter is the only child they had baptised. Seven years is a long time to have had only the one child.
Margaret DICKSON or STOBO died 1876 aged 76 in Douglas reg district. Cert ref no. 641/25

[GallowayLass]

If your Margaret is shown on 1851census as being from Crawfordjohn, then she was actually baptised 6 May 1798, daughter of Alexander STOBO and Elizabeth CALLAN.
There was another child of same name to different parents, baptised later in 1798 in Greenlaw, Berwickshire and a younger child Margaret STOBBO born 1805 in Lesmahagow again to different parents if the first one proves not to be yours.

[GallowayLass]

Janet MATHIE is maybe James DICKSON’s widowed mother. Don’t forget it was very common in Scotland fir women to use their own surname in official documents, especially when widowed.

[gloryer]

thank you for that info. No idea how Stobbo is connected. There is another child on the census under the Dickson name, Elisabeth.

[gloryer]

I am just wondering if they simply 'adopted ' Alexander McKerrow as I do have another one in Scotland that actually says 'adopted' on the census but I dont think it was a legal or documented adoption.

[JudithM]

I am confusing myself!! I have Alexanders mother as Jane/Jean sloan and his father as John McKerrow, a famous draughts player in his day, so even if I found Margaret Dicksons maiden name it might not solve the puzzle, but interesting that Alexander called his son James Dickson Mckerrow, who then became as art master and had a painting in an exhibition in Glasgow.

Scotlands People has a baptism that fits those parents. Perhaps one or both died or for some other reason couldn't look after Alexander.

MCKERROW

ALEXANDER

JOHN MCKERROW/JEAN SLOAN FR807 (FR807)

M

23/07/1835

parish number 641/

ref 30 105

Douglas

[gloryer]

thank you judith. Just looking at dates and they didnt marry until april 1835 so she would have been 7 months pregnant at that time as Alexander born June 1835. John was often away playing draughts!! I dont have a death date for Jean/Jane Sloan and not sure when John married Christina Aitken

[mmaciocia]

Know that this is really years after these posts, but, 2 children were born to Jean Sloan and John McKerrow, William and Alexander. On William's death registered in Lanark it lists his mother as Jean Simpson. Further investigating I discovered Jean and John's death certificates and Jean's shows her married to David Simpson, registered by William, John's lists both Jean and Christina Aitken as his wives. Also tried to find a record of a divorce having taken place, cannot find that. So a mystery as to how they both managed to remarry.

[mmaciocia]

ON the census, according to the census recorded on MyHeritage for 1861, Alexander is living with his grandmother Margaret in Cowcaddens Street, Glasgow. Having checked John McKerrow's parentage, he was the son of Alexander McKerrow and Margaret Alexander, and the people in the census match the family details:

Household

RELATION	NAME	BIRTH
Head	Margaret McKerrow	Circa 1788
Son	Alex McKerrow	Circa 1819
Grandson	Alex McKerrow	Circa 1836
Lodger	Donald McNeil	Circa 1837
Lodger	Alex McNeil	Circa 1843
Granddaughter	Jessie McKerrow	Circa 1852

Name	Alex McKerrow
Gender	Male
Birth	Circa 1836 Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Residence	Apr 7 1861 Glasgow, Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Address	Cowcaddens Street
Age	25
Marital status	Unmarried
Occupation	Artist Painting

[gloryer]

Hi mmaciocia I didnt know you were on here, I did get your message on ancestry and still a bit puzzled by all of the McKerrow/Dickson/Sloan/Simpson mix. lol

I recently visited Douglas Castle and it prompted my brother and me to purchase a copy of Castle Dangerous by Sir Walter Scott as it is said to contain some story lines relating to the Dickson family. Not got very far with the book but Thomas Dickson was a well trusted servant of Sir James of Douglas.

I think there are multiple marriages and multiple pregnancies to work out to understand who belongs to which line.

[gloryer]

ON the census, according to the census recorded on MyHeritage for 1861, Alexander is living with his grandmother Margaret in Cowcaddens Street, Glasgow. Having checked John McKerrow's parentage, he was the son of Alexander McKerrow and Margaret Alexander, and the people in the census match the family details:

Household

RELATION	NAME	BIRTH
Head	Margaret McKerrow	Circa 1788
Son	Alex McKerrow	Circa 1819
Grandson	Alex McKerrow	Circa 1836
Lodger	Donald McNeil	Circa 1837
Lodger	Alex McNeil	Circa 1843
Granddaughter	Jessie McKerrow	Circa 1852

Name	Alex McKerrow
Gender	Male
Birth	Circa 1836 Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Residence	Apr 7 1861 Glasgow, Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Address	Cowcaddens Street
Age	25
Marital status	Unmarried
Occupation	Artist Painting

interesting that Alexander is listed as artist painting as that what his son became. Art master at Morisons academy in Crieff