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**GallowayLass** · 20-11-17, 22:19

His birth was registered 1888. At the moment you can order a PDF copy of his birth certificate for £6 instead of the usual cost of £9.25 for a paper copy by post. The offer is available for 3 months from 12 October 2017 may last longer. You will have to register with the GRO site.
Click here https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/c...es/default.asp

ROBERTSON, GEORGE WILLIAM NOTT
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 21

**GallowayLass** · 20-11-17, 22:37

This is the marriage of the parents. You can order this online as well but it will be £9.25 and arrive by post.

First name(s) WILLIAM EDWARD
Last name ROBERTSON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1884
MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM EDWARD ROBERTSON married one of these people
Mary Ann Nott, Ada Isabel Ancrun
District Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Volume 6A
Page 164
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England

**GallowayLass** · 20-11-17, 22:59

His father's birth

ROBERTSON, WILLIAM EDWARD PARSONS
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 43

and his father's parents' marriage;
Name: William Robertson
Registration Year: 1863
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec (4th)
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 62
Records on Page:
Name
Mary Ann Banwill
John Dinwiddy
Frances Parsons
William Robertson

This one gives place of marriage;

Name: William Robertson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 22 Nov 1863
Marriage Place: Bristol, St Mary Redcliffe, Gloucestershire, England
Spouse: Frances Parsons

**jenoco** · 20-11-17, 23:12

Welcome to FTF and your English using Google translator is a lot better than my French. I had no idea M. Macron had an English ancestor.
Below is George's baptism and birth registration information.

From Ancestry's website:
Name: George William Robertson
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1887
Baptism Date: 8 Feb 1888
Baptism Place: St. Paul, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father: William Robertson
Mother: Mary Ann
FHL Film Number: 1596643

Registration of birth:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ROBERTSON, GEORGE WILLIAM NOTT
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 21

I have not yet found him on any census returns. Do you know George's father's occupation?

**GallowayLass** · 20-11-17, 23:30

I'm not finding him on a census either but he had two sisters

ROBERTSON, ALICE EMILY NOTT
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 16

ROBERTSON, SARAH FLORENCE NOTT
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 18

**GallowayLass** · 20-11-17, 23:38

I have found some of them in 1891. For some reason, the three children are in the Bristol City Workhouse. Cannot find the parents though.

**GallowayLass** · 21-11-17, 00:28

This your man's father William [Edward] Robertson aged 7 on the 1871 census. His father is not at home.
Address 4 Wilder Street, Bristol. This is same address as 1881 when father is at home but William [Edward] is not.
Name: William Robertson
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Frances Robertson
Gender: Male
Where born: St Paul; Bristol
Civil Parish: St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St Paul
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 2526
Folio: 17
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Frances Robertson 25
William Robertson 7
Henry Robertson 5
Emily Robertson 3

The family in 1881
Name: William Robertson
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Francis Robertson
Gender: Male
Where born: Thornbury
Civil Parish: Bristol St Paul In
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: 4 Wilder St
Marital Status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Shoeing Smith
Registration district: Bristol
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 2471
Folio: 57
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
William Robertson 37
Francis Robertson 34
Henry Robertson 14
Fredrick Robertson 10
Laura Robertson 8
Hannah Robertson 3
Sarah Robertson 1

The family in 1891

Name: William Robertson
Gender: Male
Age: 46
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1845
Spouse: Francis Robertson
Child: Frederick J Robertson
Hannah C Robertson
Mary E Robertson
Sarah F Robertson
Alfred J Robertson
Albert E Robertson
Edward L Robertson
Birth Place: Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Residence Place: Bristol, St Paul, Gloucestershire, England
Registration district: Bristol
Sub registration district: St Paul
ED, Institution or Vessel: 8
Piece: 1960
Folio: 126
Household Members: Name Age
William Robertson 46
Francis Robertson 44
Frederick J Robertson 20
Hannah C Robertson 14
Mary E Robertson 13
Sarah F Robertson 11
Alfred J Robertson 8
Albert E Robertson 6
Edward L Robertson 3

**GallowayLass** · 21-11-17, 00:40

Got caught out by the 10 minute rule again!
In 1891 William Robertson aged 46 was a farrier.

This is his birth;
ROBERTSON, WILLIAM mms. NICHOLS
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 11 Page 211

**GallowayLass** · 21-11-17, 00:49

Frances Robertson nee Parsons dies in Bristol 1896. an ancestry tree has exact date 28 August 1896 but no source for it. Her baptism was 1 March 1846 at St Philip and Jacob, Bristol, Gloucestershire. the source is transcription of the parish register.

**GallowayLass** · 21-11-17, 01:00

William Edward Robertson marries again to a widow in Croydon, Surrey. He has had a step up in employment from labourer to cabinet maker - unless of course he was telling lies in order to look good? He dies there in 1923

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Name: William E Robertson
Death Age: 59
Birth Date: abt 1864
Registration Date: Dec 1923
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 326

His second wife's death;

Name: Elizabeth P Robertson
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: abt 1863
Registration Date: Jun 1944
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 839

**GallowayLass** · 21-11-17, 01:10

1901 census he is lodging in Colne, Lancashire. Ignore the comment in post above about change of occupation as he is a cabinet maker in 1901

Name: William Robertson
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Colne
Ecclesiastical parish: Colne St Bartholomew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Stone Bridge Chambers
Occupation: Cabinet maker
Condition as to marriage: Single
Education
Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Colne
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3886
Folio: 70
Page Number: 30

**GallowayLass** · 21-11-17, 01:43

I am stopping here because now am I beginning to doubt my findings for the following reason;

The children as found with William and Frances in the various censuses do have Parsons as mother 's maiden surname according to the GRO website index BUT on the censuses, this William says born Thornbury district which is a distinct separate district from Bristol and I have found a William Robertson of a similar age that fits the Thornbury birth.

ROBERTSON, WILLIAM COOK
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in THORNBURY UNION Volume 11 Page 504

Yet the marriage certificate in Croydon does have the groom's father as a farrier (deceased) so that bit fits. If only we could find William Edward Robertson born 1864 on 1881 and 1911 censuses!

**GallowayLass** · 21-11-17, 01:56

Also cannot pin him down in 1891 census. Where on earth was he? In the armed services?? In France??

**DEBRIT** · 21-11-17, 03:50

Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post

Also cannot pin him down in 1891 census. Where on earth was he? In the armed services?? In France??

No translater ,just scolar memories ,you no laugh ,because i go to job.
Thank you for your reply and at to night
John

**DEBRIT** · 21-11-17, 03:59

[QUOTE=jenoco;2616954]Welcome to FTF and your English using Google translator is a lot better than my French. I had no idea M. Macron had an English ancestor.
Below is George's baptism and birth registration information.

Thank you.
My Work on Emmanuel MACRON ancestors :
gw.geneanet.org/jldebrit_w?lang=fr&n=macron&nz=macron&ocz=0&p=emma nuel+jean+michel+frederic&pz=emmanuel+jean+michel+ frederic

Excuse my Scolar memories ,but i go to job and I have not much time.
John

**DEBRIT** · 21-11-17, 21:58

Hello everyone.
I summarize what I had + what I understood, going back in time:

Georges w Robertson gets married in France in 1919
on his marriage certificate we learn:
- That he is a butcher (he will become a hotelkeeper)
- That he was born in Bristol on December 28, 1887 to William Robertson and Mary Ann Nott, both dead.
- That he is domiciled in Bristol Stalpliton Street
- His witnesses are John Pherson, 35, a hairdresser in liverpool, and James Gernou, 23, in Candas, France (but whose first name is not used in France at all), these two may be, fellow soldiers
Censuses and registers tell us
- that he had at least two sisters, Alice Emily and Sarah Florence and a brother William Henry born in 1889
- her parents were married in the last quarter of 1884 in Bristol
- Mary Ann Nott, her mother (with a lot of reservations and under your control)
was born in the 2nd quarter of 1852 in Clitton and died in Bristol last quarter of 1909
William edouard Robertson, father of Georges W was born in the last quarter of 1863 in Bristol and may be baptized in St Paul on April 20, 1864
As he is said to have died in 1919, was he able to remarry in 1923 - an error has crept in?
An interesting death can be found on the 2nd quarter of 1917 in Chipping Sodbury (?)

He was the eldest of a great sibship, each census gives us three additional and some elders who disappear from the father's home, births from 1863 to 1887, the mother to between 16 and 41 years

No Ancestry of Mother Mary Ann Nott yet
The parents of the father are:
William Robertson born in Bristol around 1845
and
Frances Parsons born in Bristol on March 1, 1846 and died in 1896

If I understood well the parents of W Robertson (1845) are: Willam Robertson and ?? Nichols

This is essentially, with all my gratitude;
Items highlighted in red deserve to be deepened
Anyway thank you very much.
Best regards.
John.

**GallowayLass** · 21-11-17, 22:42

No to the parents of W Robertson 1845. See my post #9. That's where I think I have made a mistake. I have done a bit more and think this fits with censuses better.

I now think his parents were Henry ROBERTSON and Charlotte COOK.

DEATH
ROBERTSON, HENRY 28
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in THORNBURY UNION Volume 11 Page 461

BURIAL
Name: Charlotte Robertson
Birth Date: 1803 (think this is wrong; doesn't match the age at death in the GRO entry below which is the only Charlotte Robertson to die that year))
Burial Date: 20 Dec 1855
Burial Place: Bristol, St Paul, Portland Square, Gloucestershire, England
Burial Age: 52 (should be 32??)

DEATH
ROBERTSON, CHARLOTTE 32
GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 22

MARRIAGE
First name(s) HENRY
Last name ROBERTSON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1846
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ HENRY ROBERTSON married one of these people
Maria Richards, Eleanor Payne, Priscilla Naoman, Charlotte Cook
District Bristol
District number -
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Volume 11
Page 203
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England

MORE MARRIAGE DETAIL
First name(s) Henry
Last name Robertson
Sex Male
Marital status Single
Marriage year 1846
Marriage date 13 Nov 1846
Place Bristol, St Paul, Portland Square
Town Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte
Spouse's last name Cook
Spouse's sex Female
Spouse marital status Single
Father's last name Robertson
Father's first name(s) Edward Oakley
Spouse's father's first name(s) James
Spouse's father's last name Cook
Country England
Archive Bristol Archives
Archive reference Marriages, 1845-1847 (P/St P/R/2/13)
Record set Gloucestershire, Bristol Marriage Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

1841 census
Name: Henry Robertson
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Thornbury
Hundred: Thornbury (Lower Division)
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: Grovesend, Thornbury
Occupation: (None shown)
Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Thornbury
Piece: 368
Book: 3
Folio: 46
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Robertson 20

Immediate neighbours
Name: Charlotte Cook
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Thornbury
Hundred: Thornbury (Lower Division)
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: Grovesend, Thornbury
Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Thornbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 368
Book: 3
Folio: 46
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
James Cook 50
Ann Cook 45
James Cook 20
George Cook 15
John Cook 14
Thomas Cook 6
Charlotte Cook 15
Julia Cook 10

**DEBRIT** · 22-11-17, 03:58

Hello GallowayLass
And thank you for these clarifications.
Have a good day.
John

**DEBRIT** · 25-11-17, 12:42

Hello everyone
Happy to have progressed on the Robertson
can we do the same for Marie-ann Nott
I am slowly getting used to your records very different from the French registers.
I found this give me your opinion:
If we go back to the wedding of M A Nott with Robertson in 1884
at the 1881 census: two M A Nott
first: 28 years so birth about 1853 in Bedminster, 3 children in low-age, husband absent.
second: 33 year old single born about 1848 in Bedminster
at the 1871 census: nothing conclusive
but at the census of 1861 much more interesting: M A Nott 14 years maid at ......... Robertson
at the 1851 census
we find (the very likely same) MA Nott 3-year-old daughter of William and Mary Ann + 2 sisters.
if we go back to 1861 for this family even sisters + 1 new but M A is no longer the normal it went to Robertson.
Trying to think that it is in this family that she will meet are future husband but for me not yet certain;
What do you think.
Best regards.
Jeans
Postscriptom: I can help in France.

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