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    Hiya to all,its been a while since I posted but I always value your help,I am looking for any information regarding Leslie Luft Raphael,born in Salford greater Manchester,other family names that might relate are Annie Raphael,Joe Raphael,all living in the Cheetham area of Salford.I have found Leslie in the Lancashire Fussiliers during world war 2 he died about 2000.

    Thank you

    Ron

  • #2
    There is a headstone photo, is this your chap born 1914?

    Record for Leslie L Raphael 27 September 1914 - 25 July 2000 in Dukinfield Crematorium, Tameside, Greater Manchester, England, United Kingdom from BillionGraves GPS Headstones. | BillionGraves


    For the 1914 GRO index, no mother's maiden name given, Raphael on other listing as MMN
    Last edited by Elaine; 12-11-17, 20:45.
    Elaine

    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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    • #3
      Leslie was born in 27 September 1914 in Salford Manchester and died in 25th July 2000 in Dukinfield Tameside Greater Manchester

      grave reference A7 DUK
      Also in grave is Ellen Raphael date of death 20/03/1997 burial date 26/03/1997 aged 85

      address at time of death 83 Newton Hall Road;Hyde
      Last edited by Janet H.; 12-11-17, 20:49.

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      • #4
        Raphael

        Yes this is the man I am looking for also the name Hornby as just come into the search,which I noticed on one of my checks

        Record for Leslie L Raphael 27 September 1914 - 25 July 2000 in Dukinfield Crematorium, Tameside, Greater Manchester, England, United Kingdom from BillionGraves GPS Headstones. | BillionGraves


        For the 1914 GRO index, no mother's maiden name given, Raphael on other listing as MMN[/QUOTE]

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        • #5
          Not sure if he was adopted???? looking for some of the family members to try and piece together a lot of mixed up information
          Originally posted by Janet H. View Post
          Leslie was born in 27 September 1914 in Salford Manchester and died in 25th July 2000 in Dukinfield Tameside Greater Manchester

          grave reference A7 DUK
          Also in grave is Ellen Raphael date of death 20/03/1997 burial date 26/03/1997 aged 85

          address at time of death 83 Newton Hall Road;Hyde

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          • #6
            not sure if he was adopted?????

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            • #7
              Name: Leslie L Raphael
              Mother's Maiden Name: Raphael
              Registration Year: 1914
              Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
              Registration district: Salford

              certificate would be the only way to go unless you have the marriage certificate for Leslie
              Last edited by Janet H.; 13-11-17, 19:48.

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              • #8
                Formal adoption didn't start until 1927. His birth certificate will state if he was legally adopted although it doesn't seem likely as he used his birth name all his life. What makes you think he was adopted?

                OC

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                • #9
                  Just having a look, found these

                  Births Jun 1912
                  Raphael Israel MMN Raphael Salford 8d/107

                  Births Mar 1914
                  LUFT Israel W Raphael Prestwich 8d/555

                  and am guessing Joseph in Vancouver was a Hornby looking at births

                  tried a few combinations

                  Births Sep 1915
                  Luft Clarissa C Raphael Prestwich 8d/498
                  Births Dec 1917
                  Luft Yochebeth G Raphael Salford 8d/101

                  Looking at 1939, with parents as Raphael but father transcribed as Joseph but says William on register

                  22 Westminster Street , Salford

                  ? possible baptism Lancs OPC
                  Baptism: 6 Sep 1911 St George, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
                  Ellen Hornby - [Child] of William Hornby & Jane
                  Abode: 26 Henry Street
                  Occupation: Collier
                  Baptised by: E.H.W. Barry, Curate
                  Register: Baptisms 1907 - 1914, Page 117, Entry 934
                  Last edited by Elaine; 13-11-17, 22:22.
                  Elaine

                  Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                  http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                  http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                  • #10
                    If you go to

                    OPC, Online Parish Clerk, family history, local history, free data, parish registers, census, Lancashire


                    There are 2 baptisms for Leslie and Ellen as parents, won't list names but dates are

                    Baptism: 1 Sep 1946 St James, Broughton
                    Baptism: 12 Dec 1948 St James, Broughton
                    Elaine

                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                    • #11
                      Looking at a birth for Ellen Hornby Q3 Salford 1911 MMN Edwards, possible parents marriage

                      Marriages Jun 1897
                      Hornby William Doncaster 9c/1219



                      St Peter's Church, Conisbrough

                      marriage is online FMP

                      1911 address matching baptism

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                      Leaving it there for Hornby to see what everyone thinks
                      Elaine

                      Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                      http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                      http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                      • #12
                        These might be worth a look but not really having any luck without a birth cert for Leslie

                        Discover your family history. Explore the world’s largest collection of free family trees, genealogy records and resources.
                        Elaine

                        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                        • #13
                          is there any information regarding Joseph????as we think that he could of been adopted??was he a Hornby


                          grave reference A7 DUK
                          Also in grave is Ellen Raphael date of death 20/03/1997 burial date 26/03/1997 aged 85

                          address at time of death 83 Newton Hall Road;Hyde[/QUOTE]

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                          • #14
                            Its Ellen that I have now started to look for and this helps a lot

                            Ron


                            Births Jun 1912
                            Raphael Israel MMN Raphael Salford 8d/107

                            Births Mar 1914
                            LUFT Israel W Raphael Prestwich 8d/555

                            and am guessing Joseph in Vancouver was a Hornby looking at births

                            tried a few combinations

                            Births Sep 1915
                            Luft Clarissa C Raphael Prestwich 8d/498
                            Births Dec 1917
                            Luft Yochebeth G Raphael Salford 8d/101

                            Looking at 1939, with parents as Raphael but father transcribed as Joseph but says William on register

                            22 Westminster Street , Salford

                            ? possible baptism Lancs OPC
                            Baptism: 6 Sep 1911 St George, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
                            Ellen Hornby - [Child] of William Hornby & Jane
                            Abode: 26 Henry Street
                            Occupation: Collier
                            Baptised by: E.H.W. Barry, Curate
                            Register: Baptisms 1907 - 1914, Page 117, Entry 934[/QUOTE]

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                            • #15
                              was Joseph a Hornby??????

                              Ron


                              Births Jun 1912
                              Raphael Israel MMN Raphael Salford 8d/107

                              Births Mar 1914
                              LUFT Israel W Raphael Prestwich 8d/555

                              and am guessing Joseph in Vancouver was a Hornby looking at births

                              tried a few combinations

                              Births Sep 1915
                              Luft Clarissa C Raphael Prestwich 8d/498
                              Births Dec 1917
                              Luft Yochebeth G Raphael Salford 8d/101

                              Looking at 1939, with parents as Raphael but father transcribed as Joseph but says William on register

                              22 Westminster Street , Salford

                              ? possible baptism Lancs OPC
                              Baptism: 6 Sep 1911 St George, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
                              Ellen Hornby - [Child] of William Hornby & Jane
                              Abode: 26 Henry Street
                              Occupation: Collier
                              Baptised by: E.H.W. Barry, Curate
                              Register: Baptisms 1907 - 1914, Page 117, Entry 934[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

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                              • #16
                                The only birth I could match up was for a Joseph Hornby no Raphael

                                Births Jun 1936
                                Hornby Joseph Hornby Salford 8d/355

                                Have you got the marriage certificate?

                                Marriages Jun 1939
                                Hornby Ellen Salford 8d/1357
                                Ralphael Leslie
                                Elaine

                                Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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