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Frederick Harry Alderson b:1916 in Haslingden Lancs

I am trying to find the marriage of Frederick's parents

On Frederick's marriage certificate George Alderson is given as his fathers name and he lived in Accrington Lancs and on his birth certificate his mothers maiden name is Matthews.

I have no idea where they married.

[Guest]

could be this one
GEORGE
Last name ALDERSON
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1895
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ GEORGE ALDERSON married one of these people
Sarah Jones, Margaret Ann Matthews
District Wrexham
District number -
County Denbighshire
Country Wales
Volume 11B
Page 440

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Thank-you Val, I will look at that one and see where it takes me.

[Guest]

its the only one I could find for those names, wonder if any other children were born before Frederick ?

[Guest]

maybe a sibling

Name: Alderson George Sedgwick
Mother's Maiden Surname:
Matthews
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 238

[Sylvia C]

from lancs bmd

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1915

ALDERSON Frederick Harry MATTHEWS Accrington Preston ACC/128/82


What is his mother's forename(s) on Frederick's birth certificate???

Do they match that marriage that Val found??

[Sylvia C]

Is this the George and Margaret Ann in 1939??

Alderson Household (4 People) 7 Perth Street , Accrington M.B., Lancashire, England

George Alderson 30 Mar 1875 Tena Cotta Worker
Margaret A Alderson 27 Jan 1875 Invalid Home Duties
Grosvenor Alderson 11 Jun 1900 Passed Fireman L M S
Gweny (Gwentain May) Alderson 01 May 1902 House Keeper

no further information on the image
No closed records

[Sylvia C]

Frederick is with his wife in 1939 .....

Alderson Household (2 People) 80 Willows Lane , Accrington M.B., Lancashire, England

Frederick H Alderson 03 Dec 1915 Assistant Cook In Food Factory
Hilda M Alderson (Campbell) 23 Oct 1914 Cotton Heald Knitter

[Sylvia C]

????????

This is the family of George Sedgewick, Grosvenor and Gwen in 1911, still in Wales

1911 Census

George Sedgwick Alderson
b ca 1899, Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales
Address 1911:- Llwynenion Cottage Rhos Ruabon

George Alderson 36 b.ca 1875, Terra Cotta Worker (Modeller)
Margaret Ann Alderson 36
Mary Doris Alderson 14
George Sedgwick Alderson 12
Grosvenor Sedgwick Alderson 10
Gwenfron May Alderson 8
Esther Alderson 1

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This is my family.

Sylvia, the mothers forename matches the marriage Val found and the address on George and Margaret Ann 1939 register entry of 7, Perth Street matches the address on Frederick's marriage certificate.

The other 1939 registry entry for Frederick and Hilda Mary has her maiden name as Campbell but the marriage certificate has the surname Cumberlidge, but it is them, the birth dates and profession match the marriage certificate. Hilda Mary was a spinster when she married so I presume that it was transcribed incorrectly?

Thank you all for another piece of my family.

[Chrissie Smiff]

The other 1939 registry entry for Frederick and Hilda Mary has her maiden name as Campbell but the marriage certificate has the surname Cumberlidge, but it is them, the birth dates and profession match the marriage certificate. Hilda Mary was a spinster when she married so I presume that it was transcribed incorrectly?

Thank you all for another piece of my family.

I think you will find that Campbell refers to a later name. There is a possible marriage in Blackburn in 1982 of a Hilda M Alderson to Arthur Campbell.

[Chrissie Smiff]

Looking at the green dates etc on the actual 1939 page and also her death under Alderson, I wonder if she married in 1982 and was divorced or it was annulled in 1984?

[Chrissie Smiff]

I think this is Hilda Mary's parents in 1911 - Married in Dec 1909 Blackburn -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2352/rg14_25008_0655_03?pid=24430077&backurl=http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DGlz7%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3D1911England%26gss%3Dangs-d%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26msT%3D1%26gsfn%3DRichard%2520G%26gsfn_x%3D0%26gsln%3DCUMBERLIDGE%26gsln_x%3D0%26mssng%3DEllen%26MSAV%3D1%26uidh%3Duo6%26pcat%3D35%26fh%3D0%26h%3D24430077%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D1&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Glz7&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

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I have her death aged 93 under Alderson in Blackburn so looking for divorce/annulment information is new to me if she did marry Arthur. Would I be able to find these details? also how has information of a second marriage in 1982 come to be documented on the 1939 census, please can you explain......I'm still learning!!

[Chrissie Smiff]

I believe that later marriages etc were noted on the 1939 register. I'm afraid I don't know how to check for divorce or annulment, it was just a thought as the copious notes in green appeared to suggest something in those years and because she died under the name Alderson and was born as Cumberlidge.

[JudithM]

I believe that later marriages etc were noted on the 1939 register. I'm afraid I don't know how to check for divorce or annulment, it was just a thought as the copious notes in green appeared to suggest something in those years and because she died under the name Alderson and was born as Cumberlidge.

I believe the reason the register was updated with name changes was because it was later used by the NHS. I don't think there's much for divorces that late. Newspapers might be worth a try. Our local one regularly reported divorces in the 50s and 60s but later only went for sources of scandal!

[Anne in Carlisle]

I agree with Chrissie. The green notes on the image show that Hilda's name was Alderson in 1939; later changed to Campbell and then later still changed to Alderson. That may mean she married SOMEONE ELSE called Alderson after Mr Campbell was no longer around.
Anne

[Chrissie Smiff]

I think it's more likely that she just reverted to Alderson. Perhaps Mr Campbell turned out to be married already or he wasn't a nice man?

[Anne in Carlisle]

I think it's more likely that she just reverted to Alderson. Perhaps Mr Campbell turned out to be married already or he wasn't a nice man?

Or maybe he died and she preferred to be known by the name she had grown used to?

No, Looks as though Arthur Campbell died in Blackburn in 1993 (making some assumptions about age and district.)

OR ..... whisper it quietly ..... maybe the register update was a mistake????? Although I agree the marriage looks likely!

Anne

[Chrissie Smiff]

I think Arthur Campbell may have married Nellie Gratrix in Blackburn first in Sept 1918. Just before their son was born. I have been trying to find out what happened to Nellie (probably born Sept 1910 in Salford) but without success.