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  • Alfred Stevens & Stevens Tree

    I’m trying to follow my family tree, specifically the ’Stevens’ line.

    I’m Michael Walter Stevens, born in Blackpool in 1942. My father (who I never met) was Cecil Walter Stevens and my mother Kathleen Mary Stevens (neé Smith).

    I’m attempting to follow the ‘Stevens’ branch of my family tree but I’ve come to a (hopefully temporary) dead end. I have the name, and occupation of my great-grandfather. I’d like to know about his parents and so on but can’t find anything.

    The information given on my grandmother’s marriage certificate, in 1920 is that he was ‘Alfred Stevens’ and his occupation was ‘carpenter’.

    As far as I know, most of my family lived in or near Leicester, UK.

    I’ve tried many of the lists of birth, marriages and deaths that are available and also FindMyPast & Ancestry.co.uk and have consulted many local experts, like the Leicestershire and Rutland Family History Society, and others.

    Any help would be appreciated.

  • #2
    What was your grandmother's maiden name and where did they marry? What ages were they? All these should be on the marriage certificate. Might be helpful?
    Last edited by Katarzyna; 03-02-17, 17:42.
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    • #3
      I think you have missed a generation out here:
      You
      Your parents - Cecil Stevens and Kathleen Smith
      Grandparents?
      Great grandfather Alfred Stevens carpenter

      By the way we do not allow living person's information on this site. Can we be certain both your parents have passed away?

      All the information on your grandmother's marriage certificate tho would be needed to trace backwards.
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      • #4
        Interesting!!!

        Cecil Walter married Kathleen Mary in 1938 in Leicester .................. BUT he is shown as having 2 surnames, Stevens and Wilson
        My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

        Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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        • #5
          Yes Kathleen is on the 1939 register with family Wilson

          420 Gipsy Lane , Leicester C.B., Leicestershire, England
          Kathleen M (Mary) Geary (Stevens) 21 Jun 1916 Female Button Winder Married 18 4
          Nellie (Edith) Wilson 31 Dec 1893 Female House Worker Widowed 18 1
          Dorothy E Holmes (Wilson) 30 Aug 1923 Female Office Clerk Single 18 2
          Kathleen M Wilkinson (Wilson) 22 May 1926 Female At School Single 18

          Marriages Sep 1958
          GEARY Elijah STEVENS Leicester 3a 1863

          Deaths Jun 1977

          GEARY KATHLEEN 18AU1894 LEICESTER C 6 2068
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          • #6
            Kat ................ do you have the right death for Kathleen Mary??

            The 1939 Register says she was born 21 June 1916, but the death shows 18 Au 1894?
            My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

            Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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            • #7
              I wonder : from 1939 register
              Dec 1923
              WILSON Dorothy E mmn Stevens Leicester 7a 426
              Sept 1926
              Wilson Kathleen M Stevens Leicester 7a 353
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sylvia C View Post
                Kat ................ do you have the right death for Kathleen Mary??

                The 1939 Register says she was born 21 June 1916, but the death shows 18 Au 1894?
                Obviously not :(
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                • #9
                  Is this the marriage cert you have Mike?

                  Marriages Mar 1920
                  Stevens Nellie E Leicester 7a 454
                  Wilson Arthur W Leicester 7a 454

                  Your Grandfather?
                  Last edited by Katarzyna; 03-02-17, 21:06.
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                  • #10
                    am I stretching it???

                    Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
                    Stevens Cecil W Stevens Leicester 7a 430


                    Born to mother surname Stevens who then married a Wilson??

                    Kat ............ that would fit with the marriage you just posted
                    My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

                    Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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                    • #11
                      Oh yes, good find Sylvia.
                      That would possibly explain the double named marriage.
                      Marriages Mar 1938
                      Smith Kathleen M Stevens Leicester
                      7a 305
                      Smith Kathleen M Wilson Leicester
                      7a 305
                      Stevens Cecil W Smith Leicester
                      7a 305
                      Wilson Cecil W Smith Leicester
                      7a 305
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                      • #12
                        So we can't be sure that Arthur Wilson is the father.

                        Mike, you would need to buy the birth certificate of Cecil to see if Arthur Wilson is named as the father.
                        Stevens Cecil W - Leicester 7a 430 Births Mar 1917
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                        • #13
                          This is a likely death for Arthur.

                          Deaths Jun 1933
                          Wilson Arthur W 48 Leicester 7a 244
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                          • #14
                            I am a bit confused. Can someone please assure us that all these births after 1915 are now deceased? I realise that anyone on the 1939 are but others seem to have been mentioned too. I am hoping that you have all remembered that only the names of births 1915 or before can be given if you have checked that they are deceased?
                            Last edited by Chrissie Smiff; 04-02-17, 08:11.
                            Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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                            • #15
                              Thank you

                              Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
                              Is this the marriage cert you have Mike?

                              Marriages Mar 1920
                              Stevens Nellie E Leicester 7a 454
                              Wilson Arthur W Leicester 7a 454

                              Your Grandfather?
                              Thank you very much Katarzyna.

                              I'll go through all the suggestions that you and Sylvia C made, and post my findings here.

                              Regards

                              Michael

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Sylvia C View Post
                                Interesting!!!

                                Cecil Walter married Kathleen Mary in 1938 in Leicester .................. BUT he is shown as having 2 surnames, Stevens and Wilson
                                Syvia C, Thank you very much

                                I'll go through all the suggestions that you and Katarzyna made, and post my findings here.

                                Regards

                                Michael

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Chrissie Smiff View Post
                                  I am a bit confused. Can someone please assure us that all these births after 1915 are now deceased? I realise that anyone on the 1939 are but others seem to have been mentioned too. I am hoping that you have all remembered that only the names of births 1915 or before can be given if you have checked that they are deceased?
                                  As far as I'm concerned, I know that my mother and father are deceased. I'm 74 and they both died years ago.

                                  Michael Stevens

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                                  • #18
                                    Thank you Michael

                                    I have just realised that I said 'I am hoping that you have all remembered that only the names of births 1915 or before can be given if you have checked that they are deceased?' Of course I should have said - I am hoping that you have all remembered that only the names of births 1915 or before can be given Unless you have checked that they are deceased?
                                    Last edited by Chrissie Smiff; 04-02-17, 09:03.
                                    Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
                                      What was your grandmother's maiden name and where did they marry? What ages were they? All these should be on the marriage certificate. Might be helpful?
                                      My mothers maiden name was Stevens. Nellie Edith Stevens on her marriage certificate. She married Arthur William Wilson in Leicester on Jan 10th 1920. She was 27 he was 35 and a widower. My maternal grandfather's name is given as Arthur Stevens, a carpenter. It's him I want to find so I can follow the Stevens name. I cant find him anywhere.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by MikeStevens View Post
                                        My mothers maiden name was Stevens. Nellie Edith Stevens on her marriage certificate. She married Arthur William Wilson in Leicester on Jan 10th 1920. She was 27 he was 35 and a widower. My maternal grandfather's name is given as Arthur Stevens, a carpenter. It's him I want to find so I can follow the Stevens name. I cant find him anywhere.
                                        Did you mean Alfred, Michael? As in your first post?
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