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  • who is he?

    if anyone has any thoughts please:

    Eleanor Purves b. 1869 Hartlepool d/o John Purves & Elizabeth Leighton
    she marries Wallace William Suffield Jan 1883 Newcastle-U-Tyne [N-U-T for future ref]
    they have one daughter Eleanor Florence Suffield 1885-1887

    'something' occurs [death of the daughter?] and she ends up with George Simpson she eventually marries him in 1925 even though she 'pretends' she is already married to George on the census and has been for some time!

    Birth of a son Arnold Simpson b. 1897 N-U-T though I cannot find ANY birth for him.

    I had real trouble trying to find her in 1901 but I believe now I have with a 'nurse child' William Evans b. 1897! [is this Arnold?]

    1901: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...01&usePUB=true
    1911:http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...01&usePUB=true

    I 'think' Arnold/William dies in 1915 but can't be 100% about that.

    Eleanor dies 1953 Chatham, Kent. [have no idea about George.]

    and I don't even know if they have/had any other children.

    do you think that Arnold is William?
    Last edited by Darksecretz; 01-02-17, 11:54. Reason: sorted links out..
    Julie
    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

    .......I find dead people

  • #2
    I am trying to see if I can help but your links do not seem to work for me!

    Can you give the census references please.
    Margaret

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    • #3
      I think this may be the ones Margaret -

      Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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      • #4
        There is a William Evans born
        EVANS, WILLIAM HENRY -
        GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in ST GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 394

        Could Eleanor have been looking after this Illegitimate child and then adopted him later - changed name to Arnold?
        Kat

        My avatar is my mother 1921 - 2012

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
          There is a William Evans born
          EVANS, WILLIAM HENRY -
          GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in ST GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 394

          Could Eleanor have been looking after this Illegitimate child and then adopted him later - changed name to Arnold?
          There is no mmn for that one either.
          Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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          • #6
            Do Eleanor or George have any relatives in the St George area?
            Kat

            My avatar is my mother 1921 - 2012

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            • #7
              On the 1911 she says married 16 years 3 children born alive 2 died. so where and who is the other child - we know she had a daughter by first husband who died.

              Margaret

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              • #8
                SUFFIELD, JOSEPH JOHN PURVES
                GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE ON TYNE Volume 10B Page 93

                SUFFIELD, ELEANOR FLORENCE PURVES Order
                GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 101
                Last edited by Katarzyna; 01-02-17, 11:01.
                Kat

                My avatar is my mother 1921 - 2012

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                • #9
                  Deaths:

                  SUFFIELD, ELEANOR FLORENCE 23 (probably months)
                  GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 81

                  SUFFIELD, JOSEPH JOHN 1
                  GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 93
                  Last edited by Katarzyna; 01-02-17, 11:04. Reason: added info
                  Kat

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                  • #10
                    Just for info Ellen was widowed by 1939

                    The Medway Institution Country Hospital Magpie Hall Road , Chatham M.B., Kent, England

                    Ellen Simpson 14 Apr 1865 Female Widowed

                    Not sure this is the right person as you give as Birth date 1869, 1939reg gives 1865 birth reg is 1863!


                    PURVES, ELEANOR LEIGHTON
                    GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 118
                    Last edited by Katarzyna; 01-02-17, 11:28.
                    Kat

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
                      Do Eleanor or George have any relatives in the St George area?
                      not that I know of Kat
                      Julie
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by margaretmarch View Post
                        On the 1911 she says married 16 years 3 children born alive 2 died. so where and who is the other child - we know she had a daughter by first husband who died.

                        Margaret
                        not sure Margaret, this family are a nightmare :(
                        Julie
                        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                        .......I find dead people

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
                          Deaths:

                          SUFFIELD, ELEANOR FLORENCE 23 (probably months)
                          GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 81

                          SUFFIELD, JOSEPH JOHN 1
                          GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 93
                          good find Kat! looks like that's the missing child then
                          Julie
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                          .......I find dead people

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
                            Just for info Ellen was widowed by 1939

                            The Medway Institution Country Hospital Magpie Hall Road , Chatham M.B., Kent, England

                            Ellen Simpson 14 Apr 1865 Female Widowed

                            Not sure this is the right person as you give as Birth date 1869, 1939reg gives 1865 birth reg is 1863!


                            PURVES, ELEANOR LEIGHTON
                            GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 118
                            that would be her, I have no idea where I got the 1869 from!..
                            Julie
                            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                            .......I find dead people

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by margaretmarch View Post
                              I am trying to see if I can help but your links do not seem to work for me!

                              Can you give the census references please.
                              Margaret
                              sorry have sorted them now :emb:
                              Julie
                              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                              .......I find dead people

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                              • #16
                                I have since found out that Arnold was indeed adopted, I have in my possession a 3 Generation tree of the Purves ~ Leighton Tree and it mentions on there about Arnold being 'Adopted' :emb:
                                Last edited by Darksecretz; 04-02-17, 09:19.
                                Julie
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                                .......I find dead people

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