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    Good Evening,

    I hope you lovely people can help me find more of the Cox family for me?

    George Cox b. circa 1861, Charney (Bassett), Berkshire
    married (no date)
    Elizabeth ? b. Challow (East or West), Berkshire

    They had children Violet b. 1887, Gertrude b. 1891, Rose Cox b. 1893, Edith b. 1896,
    George b. 1898, Ernest b. 1900, Lily b. 1904, Walter b. 1907, Arthur b. 1909 (from 1901 & 1901 census)

    1) Unable to find their marriage
    2) Unable to find them on the 1861-1891 census'.

    They are Cox on the 1911, mis-transcribed on the 1901 as Cope.

    TIA for any help / light you may shed on these for me

    Tessie

    * Note - Think I've just found George on the 71 & 81 with his parent's.
    Last edited by tessie31082; 06-11-16, 20:45.

  • #2
    Since the new GRO digitized records came online on Friday in which one can find mmn, it helps to have place of birth of children, and full names if you have them.

    I assume this is the family in 1901??

    George Cope 58
    Elizabeth Jane Cope 34
    Violet Mary Cope 14 b.ca 1887, Denchworth, Berkshire
    Gertrude Matilda Cope 10 b.ca 1891, Cl??worth, Berkshire
    Rose Emma Jane Cope 8 b.ca 1893, Cholsey, Berkshire
    Edith Jemima Cox 5 b.ca 1896, Cholsey
    George Joseph Cox 3 b.ca 1898, Cholsey
    Ernest Thomas Cox 8/12 b.ca 1900, Cholsey

    Registration District for Cholsey .... Wallingford
    My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

    Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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    • #3
      I'm checking the children's birth registrations ,............




      COX, ROSE EMMA JANE mmn CROOK
      1893 J Quarter WALLINGFORD Volume 02C Page 320

      COX, EDITH JEMIMA mmn CROOK
      1895 S Quarter WALLINGFORD Volume 02C Page 316
      My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

      Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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      • #4
        COX, GEORGE JOSEPH CROOK
        1898 J Quarter WALLINGFORD Volume 02C Page 317

        COX, ERNEST THOMAS CROOK
        1900 S Quarter WALLINGFORD Volume 02C Page 316
        My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

        Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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        • #5
          I cannot find a child born Cox with mmn Crook before Rose Emma Jane


          I wonder if the reason that you cannot find a marriage is because they did not marry?

          I'll see if I can find the birth name for the earlier children.


          You can search for yourself at



          Click on Order Certificates Online

          Then on Log In/Register

          It is free to register
          My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

          Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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          • #6
            from 1911 Census

            George Cox 50
            Eliza Cox 45
            Rose Cox 18
            George Cox 14
            Lily Cox 8
            Walter Cox 5
            Arthur Cox 3

            Married 20 years, 9 children, 8 still living 1 died


            COX, LILY EVELYN CROOK
            1903 J Quarter WALLINGFORD Volume 02C Page 322


            COX, WALTER WILLIAM CROOK
            1905 D Quarter WALLINGFORD Volume 02C Page 313

            COX, ARTHUR EDWARD CROOK
            1908 J Quarter WALLINGFORD Volume 02C Page 325




            NOTE:- There is another Cox mmn Crook, with births registered in Cardiff!!!
            My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

            Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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            • #7
              ????????????

              George seems to be alone in 1891

              Is it possible that the older children are not his???


              The absence of a mmn seems to indicate an illegitimate child

              CROOK, VIOLET MARY -
              1887 M Quarter WANTAGE Volume 02C Page 300

              CROOK, GERTRUDE MATILDA -
              1891 J Quarter WANTAGE Volume 02C Page 297
              My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

              Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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              • #8
                1891 Census

                Name: Violet Mary Crook
                Age: 4
                Estimated birth year: abt 1887
                Relation: Granddaughter
                Gender: Female
                Where born: Denchworth, Berkshire, England
                Civil Parish: Denchworth
                Ecclesiastical parish: Denchworth
                Town: Denchworth
                County/Island: Berkshire

                1911 Census

                Name: Violet Mary Crook
                Age in 1911: 24
                Estimated birth year: abt 1887
                Relation to Head: Boarder
                Gender: Female
                Birth Place: Wantage, Berkshire, England
                Civil Parish: Hampstead

                Violet Mary Crook 24 Dressmaker
                Edith Jemima Cox 15
                Noel Alexander Crook 8 mnths

                Noel Alexander is listed under Edith Jemima, and shown as Son ........... which to me indicates that he could be Edith's child rather than Violet's
                My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

                Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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                • #9
                  1891 Census

                  Name Eliza Crook
                  Age 24
                  Estimated Birth Year abt 1867
                  Relation Inmate
                  Gender Female
                  Where born East Challow, Berkshire, England

                  ED, institution, or vessel Wantage Union Workhouse


                  Eliza Crook 24
                  Infant Crook 1/12
                  My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

                  Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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                  • #10
                    Ernest Thomas was the child who died ..........

                    born
                    COX, ERNEST THOMAS CROOK
                    1900 S Quarter WALLINGFORD Volume 02C Page 316

                    died
                    COX, ERNEST THOMAS 1
                    1902 M Quarter WALLINGFORD Volume 02C Page 225
                    My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

                    Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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                    • #11
                      It of course doesn't help that mother Elizabeth changed her name from Eliza to Elizabeth !!

                      1871 Census

                      Name: Eliza I Crook
                      Age: 4
                      Estimated birth year: abt 1867
                      Relation: Daughter
                      Father's name: John Crook
                      Mother's name: Jane Crook
                      Gender: Female
                      Where born: East Challow, Berkshire, England

                      It is J on the image

                      Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%)
                      Crook John Wantage 2c 564
                      Eustice Jane Wantage 2c 564


                      CROOK, ELIZA JANE mmn EUSTACE
                      1866 D Quarter WANTAGE Volume 02C Page 291
                      My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

                      Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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                      • #12
                        I do not think they married!

                        I picked a George Cox on the 1891 who was born in Childey (??) nr Wantage .......... but maybe I was wrong.

                        He was single, but he was a Corn Merchant's Clerk, which doesn't seem to fit with George in 1901 who was an Ag Lab.

                        It's possible that George married between 1881 and 1891 or 1892, an that is the reason he and Eliza(beth) Jane did not marry.
                        Last edited by Sylvia C; 06-11-16, 22:48.
                        My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

                        Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks Sylvia! You have helped loads. Thanks for the info on the GRO

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