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  • Anyone related to this Irish Sampson Family?

    I'm helping a gentleman to trace his family tree and as he doesn't know much about his ancestors maybe someone might be able to add some information.
    I've added his family to my family tree as his other Grandfather John Curtin's brother, Thomas Curtin was my aunty's father in law!

    1901 Census

    Residents of a house 3.1 in Clonalour (Tralee Urban, Kerry)

    Thomas Sampson 51 Head of Family R Catholic Tipperary Station Master G S V R Married
    Margaret Sampson 35 Wife R Catholic Somerset, England
    Herbert Sampson 3 Son R Catholic Tralee - - - -
    Joseph Sampson 10 Son R Catholic Tralee Scholar
    Edward Sampson 13 Son R Catholic Tralee Scholar
    Margaret Baker 76 Mother R Catholic Tipperary Widow

    Margaret Sampson is Thomas Sampson's 2nd wife married 1896.
    His first wife was Catherine Fitzgerald married 1874


    1901 Census
    Residents of a house 11 in Fenit Without (Ballynahaglish, Kerry)
    Martin Sampson 21 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Tipperary Stn Master

    Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
    Name:Martin Sampson Birth Date: 26 Feb 1880 Birth Place:Tipperary, Tipperary, Ireland
    Father:Thomas Sampson Mother: Kate Fitzgerald Sampson



    1911 Census

    Residents of a house 103 in William Street (Listowel Urban,Kerry)

    Thomas Sampson 60 Head Roman Catholic Limerick City Railway Station Master
    Ellen Sampson 47 Wife Roman Catholic Listowel Co Kerry Married 2 yrs
    Herbert Sampson 13 Son Roman Catholic Listowel Co Kerry Scholar
    Anthony Sampson 7 Son Roman Catholic Listowel Co Kerry Scholar

    Thomas Sampson's 3rd wife is Ellen Beary (widow) Nee McGuire
    teresa

  • #2
    Hi Teresa,
    As you know, Thomas Sampson married Kate Fitzgerald 1874 but images for pre-1882 marriages are not yet available on irishgenealogy.ie although they are currently working on it. (Same for deaths pre-1891).
    For all links below you will probably have to tick a box saying you are not a robot and enter a couple of random initials or name to comply with legislation apparently. However the site is completely free and no registration is required.

    Children of first marriage -
    John Sampson - this is odd though - two separate registrations for what seems to be the same child, with same parents (Thomas Sampson railway clerk and Kate Sampson, formerly Fitzgerald:
    John Sampson b 20 Jul 1875 Tipperary

    And with different birthdate of 7 August 1875 Tipperary


    Bridget Sampson b 25 Aug 1876 Nelson Street, Tipperary


    Martin Sampson birth - unfortunately image not available - showing MMN instead. All birth registrations from 1864 to the current 1915 cut off should have the image available but I've come across this sort of glitch a few times which is frustrating:


    I currently can't find birth registrations for Edward and Joseph who are 13 and 10 respectively in the 1901 census.

    Death of first wife:
    Catherine (Fitzgerald) Sampson 5 Oct 1893 Tralee


    2nd marriage Thomas Sampson and Margaret Baker 13 Feb 1896, Cork


    Children of 2nd marriage:
    Birth of Herbert Joseph Sampson 20 Feb 1898 Tralee


    Birth of Anthony Joseph Gerard Sampson 3 Mar 1904 Tralee


    Margaret (Baker) Sampson death 9 Feb 1908 Listowel


    3rd marriage Thomas Sampson and Ellen McGuire 14 Feb 1909


    Death of Ellen McGuire Sampson 4 Sep 1936 aged 72 Richmond Hospital, Dublin


    Poss death Thomas Sampson 20 Feb 1931 29 Fitzwilliam Square, Dublin.
    This was the only likely looking death I could find for Thomas Sampson, given that he must have died before Ellen, who is described as station master's widow on her 1936 death reg and who also died in Dublin


    Christine
    Researching:
    HOEY (Fermanagh, other Ulster counties and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) BANNIGAN and FOX (Ballyshannon, Donegal, Ireland and Portland, Maine, USA) REYNOLDS, McSHEA, PATTERSON and GOAN (Corker and Creevy, Ballyshannon, Donegal, Ireland) DYER (Belfast and Ballymacarrett) SLEVIN and TIMONEY (Fermanagh) BARNETT (Ballagh, Tyrone and Strangford, Down)

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    • #3
      Thanks Christine,

      I have found and traced the his family back so far. I meant to say that last night, but being late, I forgot.
      Typical of the Irish, each generation repeating the same names on different branches... A Nightmare!

      Not forgetting the nick names of some of his aunts. It's no wonder people are having great difficulty in making any connections.

      ''Children of first marriage -
      John Sampson - this is odd though - two separate registrations for what seems to be the same child, with same parents (Thomas Sampson railway clerk and Kate Sampson, formerly Fitzgerald:
      John Sampson b 20 Jul 1875 Tipperary
      https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy....90/2132939.pdf
      And with different birthdate of 7 August 1875 Tipperary
      https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy....90/2132940.pdf''

      The pdf 90/2132939 has been crossed through. If you look at the very bottom of the page it states the name of first and last Entry. John Sampson was the last one but they had made an error in the Month and crossed it through.
      pdf 2132940 is the correct one and he only lived for a few days.

      I'm really looking to see if anyone else might have traced their family back to his on the 2 census records.
      teresa

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      • #4
        Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - TRALEE
        Baptism of EDWARD SAMSON of L + K RAILWAY ST. on 12 October 1887
        Name EDWARD SAMSON
        Date of Birth 9 October 1887
        Address L + K RAILWAY ST.
        Father THOMAS SAMSON
        Mother CATHERINE FITZGERALD
        Sponsor 1 MICHAEL DAWSON
        Sponsor 2 MARY ANN DAWSON


        He died in the USA
        teresa

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        • #5
          I couldn't find a Birth Reg for Joseph Sampson either but here is his Baptism record.

          Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - TRALEE
          Baptism of JOSEPH SAMPSON of N.K. RAILWAY STATION on 20 April 1889
          Name JOSEPH SAMPSON
          Date of Birth 15 April 1889
          Address N.K. RAILWAY STATION
          Father THOMAS SAMPSON
          Mother CATHERINE FITZGERALD
          Sponsor 1 JAMES LACY
          Sponsor 2 MARY F. LACY
          teresa

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          • #6
            My Gentleman's Parents were Anthony Joseph Gerard Sampson 1904 -1965. His mother was Mary Ellen aka Maisie Curtin 1901-1993. Her father was John Curtin 1864-1933 married in Listowel, Co. Kerry 1895 to Ellen Chute 1867-1939

            I do have a wealth of information about the Curtin Family back to 1836.
            teresa

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            • #7
              It seems like you already have quite a bit of info so what exactly is it that you are looking for? Are you looking to go further back or to follow the children of Thomas Sampson forward?

              Christine
              Last edited by Karamazov; 27-10-16, 10:59.
              Researching:
              HOEY (Fermanagh, other Ulster counties and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) BANNIGAN and FOX (Ballyshannon, Donegal, Ireland and Portland, Maine, USA) REYNOLDS, McSHEA, PATTERSON and GOAN (Corker and Creevy, Ballyshannon, Donegal, Ireland) DYER (Belfast and Ballymacarrett) SLEVIN and TIMONEY (Fermanagh) BARNETT (Ballagh, Tyrone and Strangford, Down)

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              • #8
                I doubt if I can get back any further on the Sampson family.

                Thomas Sampson Senior's father was a John Sampson a farmer.

                Myself and my gentleman are having difficulty finding a death Registration for him. Have found quite a few, and have certificates but no way of knowing if it's his Gt Gt Grandfather as some died in Hospital or the workhouse so no relative was the informant.

                There seems to be a big lack of people who have traced their Sampson roots to his family from what I've seen, which it not surpirising as there are so many in Ireland and elsewhere.

                We believe that we have found Thomas Sampson's Parents given that he was born c.1847 according to his death.

                Baptism Record
                Name: Thomas Sampson
                Baptism Age: 0
                Event Type: Baptism
                Birth Date: 1846
                Baptism Date: 7 Jun 1846
                Baptism Place: Tipperary, Tipperary, Ireland
                Diocese: Cashel and Emly
                Father: John Sampson Mother: Johanna Hickey
                Sponsors: William Hickey & Catherine Hickey


                Parents Marriage:
                Name: John Sampson
                Gender: Male
                Event Type: Marriage
                Marriage Date: 6 Feb 1842
                Marriage Place: Galbally and Aherlow, Limerick and Tipperary, Ireland
                Parish Variants: Aherlow, Galbally
                Diocese: Cashel and Emly
                Spouse: Johana Hickey

                Witnesses John Hickey, Thomas Regan & Timothy Tobin


                My Gentleman is also looking for descendants of his aunts and uncles on the Curtin side of the family too.
                His mother Mary Ellen Curtin 1901-1993 known as Maisie, was one of 6 Children.

                Her siblings are:

                Batholomew Curtin b.1896, aka Sonny,
                Margaret Mary Curtin aka Cissie 1898
                Delia Curtin 1902 Baptised as Bridget
                Roland Francis Curtin 1903
                Catherine Curtin aka Kitty 1906
                teresa

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