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TabithaAmyRose
02-07-16, 11:08
Hello! Sorry to trouble you all, I'm a new user here, I just started yesterday, so I hope I'm doing this right! Anyway, I digress, I was wondering if anyone could tell me anything about what particular hat this woman is wearing? I've tried to look into it myself but I can't seem to find it anywhere. She seems to me like some kind of performer, which may be some indication as to what the hat may be. But I could of course be wrong. As a 21 year old criminology student I don't really know a lot about the Victorian age! I just thought that if I find out what particular hat she is wearing, I might find out a little more about her through further research.

Any insight toward her attire in general such as her jacket or gloves would also be incredibly helpful to me as I am writing about her for my current project!

Thank you so much for reading!

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/YoIAAOSwoydWoi-c/$_57.JPG

Caroline
02-07-16, 11:21
Welcome to the forum, I don't know much at all (i.e. nothing), about historical fashion, but you might find some clues on the links on our pages in the Reference Library:

https://www.familytreeforum.com/content.php/947-costume-gallery - pictures contributed by our members.

and

https://www.familytreeforum.com/content.php/321-Costume-Past-and-Present - links to lots of sites on the topic.

Caroline
02-07-16, 11:28
"Googling" the name of the photographer might help too. :)

TabithaAmyRose
02-07-16, 11:36
Thank you very much for your help! I had a look into it, and I can't seem to find the particular hat on these pages unfortunately, I'm not even sure if it's a hat typically designed for men or for women. Judging by the attire it could very well be either. I found some interesting facts about the photographer though, and judging by that it seems that she is a performer of some sort. It's just that hat! I can't find it anywhere!

Jill on the A272
02-07-16, 11:46
It's rather like a boater, though as the women wore their hair up the crown has to be deeper than one a man would wear.

Anne in Carlisle
02-07-16, 12:26
Welcome to FTF! All I can say is that she looks particularly informal for a Victorian photo, so probably that supports your theory that she is a performer of some sort. She is deliberately striking a very casual pose, which is very unlike normal Victorian portrait photos.
Anne

TabithaAmyRose
02-07-16, 12:28
It does look rather like a boater. Though I'm not sure if there is a light reflecting on the hat or if its simply a fading on the photo. If it's a light reflection that might put a spanner in the works because typically a boaters material would not be reflective. The time period for the photo is 1889-1904 if that helps anyone find out anything more about her attire. I know this because Hellis & Sons (the photographer) had 6 studios at this time, and on the back of the card, there are 6 studios written down. I think it'd be interesting to discover things about this photo due to the fact that I find her particular form of clothing rather intriguing and unique for this time period.

Thank you for shedding some light on the photo!

TabithaAmyRose
02-07-16, 12:30
Thank you for posting! This is what I thought, which is what strikes me as interesting about the photo. It's very unlike any other Victorian photos that I own when it comes to the posture and the clothing. I'm glad that someone else thinks she is a performer. Very helpful.

Jill on the A272
02-07-16, 19:37
Do you have a name for the subject or any clues as to where the photo has been since it was taken?

TabithaAmyRose
02-07-16, 19:42
It was taken at Westminster, and travelled to Matlock, Derby, and then it got to me, in Northampton, I think that's as much as it has travelled, or at least all I know! Sorry if that's not very helpful!

Jill on the A272
02-07-16, 20:09
She's a well travelled lady then :) Some of my theatricals were a bit vague as to their ages and changed their names at the drop of a hat (probably a hat like this one!) so they are very difficult to pin down.

TabithaAmyRose
02-07-16, 20:19
You're very right indeed. Thank you ever so much for the help. She is indeed well travelled!

TabithaAmyRose
02-07-16, 22:47
Update: I've found an incredibly similar hat, this photo was taken in the 1890's also making it the perfect time period. Can anyone name this hat?

http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.uk/globalmedia/nmem/1784_2.JPG

Chrissie Smiff
05-07-16, 10:08
If you scroll down this page on Blanche's Place you will see hats that look very similar apart from the fact that they have heavy trimmings - It actually says at the top of the page that this shape was very popular for cycling and boating.

http://blanchesplace.com/176-small-victorian-boater-style-hats

Darksecretz
06-07-16, 07:29
Just had a look at this and my first instinct was that it was the photographers prop. [in the OP] But then looking at what Chrissie found it may be that she was in a boating outfit, the jacket she is wearing looks very much like a seaman's jacket to me.


If you scroll down this page on Blanche's Place you will see hats that look very similar apart from the fact that they have heavy trimmings - It actually says at the top of the page that this shape was very popular for cycling and boating.

http://blanchesplace.com/176-small-victorian-boater-style-hats

TabithaAmyRose
06-07-16, 11:09
Just had a look at this and my first instinct was that it was the photographers prop. [in the OP] But then looking at what Chrissie found it may be that she was in a boating outfit, the jacket she is wearing looks very much like a seaman's jacket to me.

This is extremely helpful. Looking into it I think you are definitely correct. Thank you so much for the help. I truly appreciate it.