Parents of John and Arthur Wilsea .

[Katarzyna]

Trying to find parents of John Edward Wilsea/Willsea/Wilsee/Willsee born 1863 Doncaster

1881 Census RG11 Misterto, E Retford nr Gainsborough 3294 27 17
Adam Britten Head M 62 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Martha A Britten Wife F 44 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Arthur Willsea Stepson M 19 Norwich, Norfolk, England
John E Willsea Stepson M 17 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
William E Pearson Stepson M 7 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Christiana Britten Daughter F 4 West Stockwith, Nottinghamshire, England

Martha Ann Wilsea married George J E Pearson Doncaster Dec 1865
Martha Ann Pearson married Adam Britain Gainsborough Dec 1875

1871 Census, Misterton, E Retford RG10 3443 23 8
George Pearson Head Male 38 1833 Yorkshire, England
Martha Pearson Wife Female 35 1836 Norfolk, England
Arthur Pearson Son Male 10 1861 Norfolk, England
John Pearson Son Male 8 1863 Lincolnshire, England
Alfred Pearson Son Male 4 1867 Yorkshire, England

1861 census Grapes Hill, Heigham, Norwich RG09 1219 173 39
John Wilsea Head Married Male 21 1840 Box Maker Norfolk, England
Martha Wilsea Wife Married Female 25 1836 ... Wymondham, Norfolk, England

A Martha Ann Fake married a John Willsea Norwich Dec 1860

I am not convinced that this marriage is correct as I found these baptisms in Doncaster all 3 dated 30th June 1867.
1867 bap Arthur Stephen Willsee.jpg
and on the following page.
1867 bap John Edward Willsee and Alfred Pearson.jpg

The two Wilsea boys are obviously adult baps but the father is Arthur James not John. Arthur would fit a naming pattern tho'.
Now I am stumped and I do realise that the birth cert would be the way to go. However, it's costing an arm and a leg to prove this all so far and it's not my tree
Any help would be appreciated.

[Guest]

there are these 3 Martha's all single in 1851 all born abt 1836 Wymondham ? maybe one of these

Martha A Cattermoul 1836 Norfolk Forehoe Wymondham Norfolk
Martha Lee 1836 Norfolk Forehoe Wymondham Sutton Norfolk
Martha Parsley 1837 Norfolk Forehoe Wymondham Norfolk

[Guest]

there is a marriage for a Martha Ann Ponder to an Alfred Fake in 1857
Martha Ann
Ponder
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1857
Alfred Fake
District Norwich
County Norfolk
Volume 4B
Page 192

[Guest]

maybe his death
Alfred Fake
Gender Male
Death quarter 4
Death year 1859
District Norwich
County Norfolk
Volume 4B
Page 87

[Katarzyna]

Thanks so much Val. You could be right. This is going to cost a fortune to prove tho'.
If she married Alfred Fake then she will have married 5 times. EEK!
I have just found her on 1901 census married to Samuel Smith in 1895 and still living in Misterton. A serial widow who obviously just can't get enough:D

I still don't understand who husband Arthur James Wilsee was. I think she must have have forgotten who the father was of the two boys when she had them baptised.

[Katarzyna]

Just found this
Ponder Martha Anne 1834 — 1834 Norfolk baptisms Wymondham, Norfolk, England

1851
Edward Ponder Head Married Male 44 1807 Silk Weaver Besthorpe, Norfolk, England
Susan Ponder Wife Married Female 43 1808 - Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Elias Ponder Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Brickmaker Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Martha Ann Ponder Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 - Wymondham, Norfolk, England
William Ponder Son - Male 13 1838 - Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Stephen Ponder Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Sprowston, Norfolk, England
Elizabeth Ponder Daughter - Female 4 1847 Scholar Norwich, Norfolk, England
Sarah Ponder Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Norwich, Norfolk, England

Looks like you were right Val

[Elaine]

Did you see the parish reg Kat?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27CK-FHQ

this one as Spiderhouse!

1st marriage ref.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NX5C-VWQ

Name Alfred Fake
Birth Date 1837
Age 20
Spouse's Name Martha Ann Ponder
Spouse's Birth Date 1835
Spouse's Age 22
Event Date 17 May 1857
Event Place Norwich, Norfolk, England
Father's Name John Fake
Spouse's Father's Name Edward Ponder

[Elaine]

Here's something

Wilsea.jpg

Nottinghamshire Guardian 13 October 1865

[Elaine]

Death Reg

First name(s) JOHN
Last name WILSEA
Death quarter 4
Death year 1865
District DONCASTER
9C/345

[Guest]

clever you Elaine what an awful way to die :(

[Elaine]

Bit more for the Pearson marriage

WILSEA Martha A PEARSON George J St George's, Doncaster Doncaster

[Katarzyna]

Yes, Thanks Elaine - nice find. I just wish I hadn't seen the two Wilsea boy's baptisms. Everything else fits in so well. I have all Martha's five husbands death refs now

[Katarzyna]

Bit more for the Pearson marriage

WILSEA Martha A PEARSON George J St George's, Doncaster Doncaster

Is there a date for this Elaine? We now know from the newspaper report that John Wilsea died in the September and the Pearson marriage was the same qtr.

[Katarzyna]

Should read died in October - Weds 11th .

[Guest]

so she didn't hang about then ?? wonder if she killed them all ;)

[Night Owl]

There's no image but Martha Ann Wilsea married George James Ellis Pearson on 25th December 1865

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=yUe761&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&gss=angs-c&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&gsfn=martha&gsfn_x=0&gsln=wilsea&gsln_x=0&MSAV=0&cp=0&catbucket=rstp&pcat=BMD_MARRIAGE&h=8658003&db=FS1EnglandMarriages&indiv=1&ml_rpos=2

[Elaine]

That was the search resuts

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi

just the year I'm afraid

[Katarzyna]

LOL Val - she certainly went through them pretty quick and didn't wait too long in between!

Thanks Jackie and Elaine. I am missing not having Ancestry but do have FMP.

[Night Owl]

I am missing not having Ancestry but do have FMP.

This is the same record on FMP

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=r_846339849%2f2

[margaretmarch]

Yes, Thanks Elaine - nice find. I just wish I hadn't seen the two Wilsea boy's baptisms. Everything else fits in so well. I have all Martha's five husbands death refs now

I think you might have to accept an error on the part of the vicar or, if the register is a Bishop's Transcript, the person who did the transcribing - it's easy to make a mistake when you are copying out lots of entries.
Either that or Martha got mixed up with all her husbands!
Margaret