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Darksecretz
11-05-16, 12:11
I am trying again to see if I can spot her, I have her in the 1841 and 1851 census but I cannot find her afterwards. this is her in 1851

1851:http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=DNF4463&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&gss=angs-g&new=1&rank=1&gsfn=mary%20a&gsfn_x=0&gsln=robins**&gsln_x=0&MSAV=1&msbdy=1818&msbpn__ftp=Melton%20Mowbray,%20Leicestershire,%20E ngland&msbpn=85127&msbpn_PInfo=8-%7C0%7C0%7C3257%7C3251%7C0%7C0%7C0%7C5272%7C85127% 7C0%7C&cpxt=1&cp=11&catbucket=rs&uidh=lg3&ssrc=pt_t56322661_p32558355621&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=17471164&recoff=6%208&db=uki1851&indiv=1&ml_rpos=87

Source Citation
Class: HO107; Piece: 2091; Folio: 304; Page: 5; GSU roll: 87719

I have checked her daughters in 1861 onwards and she doesn't appear with them at all.

I have found these two marriages but I am having trouble locating them in the census. Could anyone help please, thank you.

Marriages Sep 1852
Austin Edward Melton Mowbray 7a 393
Black Elizabeth Melton Mowbray 7a 393
COOKE John Melton Mowbray 7a 393
Robinson Mary Ann Melton Mowbray 7a 393

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Marriages Mar 1853

MITCHELL John Melton 7a 348
ROBINSON Mary Anne Melton 7a 348

Val wish Id never started
11-05-16, 14:28
this is the one for Mitchell
Mary Anne Robinson
Marriage date 17 Feb 1853
Marriage place Melton Mowbray
John Mitchell
County Leicestershire

Val wish Id never started
11-05-16, 14:36
did one of her daughters marry a Spencer?

Darksecretz
11-05-16, 14:44
did one of her daughters marry a Spencer?

nope, I can't find Mary Ann in the census after 1851 so maybe she married? I have checked the deaths and I can't spot one for 1851-1861 for her. :(

Darksecretz
11-05-16, 14:45
this is the one for Mitchell
Mary Anne Robinson
Marriage date 17 Feb 1853
Marriage place Melton Mowbray
John Mitchell
County Leicestershire

don't suppose you can spot them in census? I've looked till I'm cross-eyed and can't spot anything

Val wish Id never started
11-05-16, 14:52
ignore that she married in Nottingham

Val wish Id never started
11-05-16, 14:56
1861 Edward Hinman born abt 1820 is married to a Sarah in Melton Mowbray so discount that one

Darksecretz
11-05-16, 15:49
1861 Edward Hinman born abt 1820 is married to a Sarah in Melton Mowbray so discount that one

thank you Val.. so need to look for a Robinson/Mitchell in the census, well a Mary A Mitchell at any rate..

Darksecretz
11-05-16, 18:07
not having any luck at ALL with this.. need to think of a new angle to try and find her.

Chrissie Smiff
11-05-16, 19:47
I didn't have time to tell you this morning Julie that I looked at 1861 for Mary Ann ............ (Blank) born between 1815 and 1821 (in case she lied) but stipulated born in Melton Mowbray (too many born Leicestershire). I double checked the marriages for the ones that came up, about 4 I think, but non were the right ones.

Darksecretz
11-05-16, 19:59
I didn't have time to tell you this morning Julie that I looked at 1861 for Mary Ann ............ (Blank) born between 1815 and 1821 (in case she lied) but stipulated born in Melton Mowbray (too many born Leicestershire). I double checked the marriages for the ones that came up, about 4 I think, but non were the right ones.

ooh thanks Chris. did you get your text sorted? I have been delving but am going around in circles!

Chrissie Smiff
11-05-16, 20:16
Yes thank you - see my reply and addition:)

Elaine
11-05-16, 20:30
Got a line from the paper, don't know if it will help

25 February 1853 - Leicester Journal
Melton Mowbray, Mr. John Mitchell, grocer, to Mary Anne, daughter Mr. Isaac Robinson, Haberdasher, of that town

Where is daughter Fanny 1861?

Elaine
11-05-16, 20:39
They are in Lancashire 1861

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7RQ-XJM

John is still a grocer, her birth is c 1830 though
John Mitchell Head M 30 , Leicestershire
Mary A Mitchell Wife F 31 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire
Louisa Mitchell Daughter F 4 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire
James A Mitchell Son M 2 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire
Arthur Mitchell Son M 1 Chorley, Lancashire
Jane Sansome Servant F 21 Melton Mowbray

1891 Back in in Leics

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WDB9-2PZ

John Mitchell Head M 60 Leicestershire, England
Mary A Mitchell Wife F 61 Leicestershire, England
Louisa Hornby Daughter F 27 Lancashire, England
Herbert Mitchell Grandson M 4 Leicestershire, England
Ellen Hornby Granddaughter F 3 Leicestershire, England

these were the only 2 that popped straight up so i'll see if there's anything in between because of her age

Elaine
11-05-16, 20:50
Looking at 1851 for Isaac

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKVT-BPCR

Isaac c 1805 so think it's another dead end

Chrissie Smiff
11-05-16, 20:58
I think this might be the twin Sabina in 1871 - http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7619/LEIRG10_3251_3255-0180?pid=24392607&backurl=http://search.ancestry.co.uk//cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26db%3Duki1871%26h%3D24392607%26 tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DtxA354% 26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26rhS ource%3D8767&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=txA354&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

Marriage of Henry Cave and Sabina Robinson in Sept 1864 Billesdon ref 7a 49

p.s. She died aged 53 - Sabina Cave Dec 1984 in Ashby de la Zouch ref 7a 63

Darksecretz
11-05-16, 21:37
Got a line from the paper, don't know if it will help

25 February 1853 - Leicester Journal
Melton Mowbray, Mr. John Mitchell, grocer, to Mary Anne, daughter Mr. Isaac Robinson, Haberdasher, of that town

Where is daughter Fanny 1861?

sorry that kind of knobbles that Mary's father was Richard Robinson [a Miller, he died in 1840 in Melton]

I have never found Fanny's mother in 1861 for definite but I do have this as a 'probable' for Fanny

1861: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=DNF4569&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&gss=angs-g&new=1&rank=1&gsfn=f&gsfn_x=0&gsln=r&gsln_x=0&MSAV=1&msbdy=1847&msbpn__ftp=Melton%20Mowbray,%20Leicestershire,%20E ngland&msbpn=85127&msbpn_PInfo=8-%7C0%7C0%7C3257%7C3251%7C0%7C0%7C0%7C5272%7C85127% 7C0%7C&cpxt=1&cp=11&catbucket=rstp&uidh=lg3&ssrc=pt_t56322661_p32558355621&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=21659857&db=uki1861&indiv=1&ml_rpos=1

Source Citation
Class: RG 9; Piece: 2300; Folio: 31; Page: 20; GSU roll: 542951

Darksecretz
11-05-16, 21:41
I think this might be the twin Sabina in 1871 - http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7619/LEIRG10_3251_3255-0180?pid=24392607&backurl=http://search.ancestry.co.uk//cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26db%3Duki1871%26h%3D24392607%26 tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DtxA354% 26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26rhS ource%3D8767&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=txA354&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

Marriage of Henry Cave and Sabina Robinson in Sept 1864 Billesdon ref 7a 49

p.s. She died aged 53 - Sabina Cave Dec 1984 in Ashby de la Zouch ref 7a 63

[1894??]

yes it is Chris, I have been to Sabina's daughters grave in Whitwick [she had 3 daughters] [Sabina Brown]

Chrissie Smiff
11-05-16, 21:44
That looks good for Fanny, it fits with 1881 as Fanny Holmes - http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1881&h=17532516&tid=56322661&pid=32558355621&usePUB=true&_phsrc=DNF4569&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&rhSource=8767

Marriage of Fanny Robinson to (possibly) John Holmes in June 1867 Ashby

Darksecretz
11-05-16, 21:53
That looks good for Fanny, it fits with 1881 as Fanny Holmes - http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=uki1881&h=17532516&tid=56322661&pid=32558355621&usePUB=true&_phsrc=DNF4569&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&rhSource=8767

Marriage of Fanny Robinson to (possibly) John Holmes in June 1867 Ashby

yep that is correct she is my grt grannie :smilee:

Darksecretz
11-05-16, 22:09
gonna have to go to bed, my eyes are seeing double/fuzzy head. thank you everyone that has helped, it really is appreciated x