Can anyone remember when recording a person's DOB & place, start on English Death Certificates please?
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I'm not sure it will say where, but a 1974 certificate should certainly have his date of birth (if it was known by someone at the time he died).Eighteen -- Hadleigh, Suffolk; Reading, Berkshire
Hendry -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Wylie -- Ballymena, Antrim; Glasgow, Lanarkshire
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Originally posted by Val wish Id never started View Postwhat year was he born maybe somebody on here can find him on a record somewhere
Death Reg. Orignal reads “John Samuel Roberts”
Name: John Roberts
Birth Date: 1892
Date of Registration: Dec 1974
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Grimsby
Inferred County: Lincolnshire, Humberside
Volume: 7
Page: 0525
His wife's death reg
Death Reg
Name: Margaret Roberts
Birth Date: abt 1892
Date of Registration: Mar 1957
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Grimsby
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 185
Her Dad's Death Reg
Death Reg
Name: John Samuel Roberts
Birth Date: 15 Dec 1922
Date of Registration: Jun 1980
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: Grimsby
Inferred County: Humberside
Volume: 7
Page: 0422
Her Dad's Birth Reg
Birth Reg
Name: John S Roberts
Mother's Maiden Surname: Cannon
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1923
Registration district: Grimsby
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 1015teresa
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My grandfather died in 1963. My uncle registered his death, but his age information is wrong!
Grandfather always had us celebrate his birthday on Christmas Day, and the belief was that he was born Dec 25 or 261884. He even had that as his birth date on his attestation papers for WW1. The papers are signed on December 11 1915, and he says he is 30 years and 350 days old
After his funeral, my uncle was clearing the house and found a birth certificate hidden away .............. grandfather was born Jan 9 1885, about 2 weeks later han he said.
Yes, it is only 2 weeks difference ................ but is an example of how much of the information on a death certificate is only that which is known to the informant!Last edited by Sylvia C; 25-11-15, 04:09.My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)
Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.
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Could this be John and Margaret in the 1939 Register.
John S Roberts - date of birth 28 Oct 1893
Margaret Roberts - date of birth 8 Feb 1893
This record says there are 6 other entries, officially closed.
Looking at FreeBMD I can see 6 children born to ROBERTS/CANNON in Grimsby between 1920-1935 - so this could be the six closed records.
Cannot see a Roberts/Cannon marriage ???Elaine
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The John Roberts in the 1939 Register has a birth date of 28 October 1893
Have found this record on Ancestry ..
UK, Royal Naval Reserve Service Records Index, 1860-1955
Name: John Samuel Roberts
Born 28 Oct 1892 - London
Service number - DA 2669
Index only - links to this record on TNA
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Not sure what other info it might hold, probably just names of vessels on which he served.Elaine
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This is a possible birth registration
Births Dec 1892
Roberts John Samuel
Paddington 1a 44
and maybe 1911 census (in Royal Navy)
This is all guesswork at the moment .. nothing definite to tie it altogether! :(Elaine
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Does your friend have a copy of the death certificate for her father or any of the younger siblings?
If she does then I would suggest submitting that against the 1939 Register entry to see if it will open one of the records - at least then you will know for certain that this is the correct family and you have some idea of the parents' birth dates (given in post 13).
You don't need to unlock the record but you will need a FMP subscription to request that an officially closed record is opened, but there are generally some good offers around for a monthly sub.
I'm not sure how long it takes for the record to be opened - I believe initially FMP were working on a 10 day reply, but not sure if this has been amended.Elaine
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Originally posted by Elaine ..Spain View PostCould this be John and Margaret in the 1939 Register.
John S Roberts - date of birth 28 Oct 1893
Margaret Roberts - date of birth 8 Feb 1893
This record says there are 6 other entries, officially closed.
Looking at FreeBMD I can see 6 children born to ROBERTS/CANNON in Grimsby between 1920-1935 - so this could be the six closed records.
Cannot see a Roberts/Cannon marriage ???
Winifred, Martha, Lily,John Samuel, Irene, Ellen, Freda and Rose. She also gave me the names of some of their spouses which I've found, so that bit fits. Winney married and American and that is why she moved across there.
I couldn't find Winifred or Martha so guessed that Margaret had married before. Took me a while but I think this is the marriage.
Marriage Reg
Name: Margaret Cannon
Spouse Surname: Donohue
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 1609
Records on Page: Name
Margaret Cannon
John Donohue
Eliza Laraway
Joseph Pickles
Margaret's second marriage
Marriage Reg
First name(s) JOHN S
Last name ROBERTS
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1917
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JOHN S ROBERTS married
MARGARET DONOHUE
Spouse's last name DONOHUE
District FYLDE
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8E
Page 1015
Birth Reg
Name: Winifred Donohue
Mother's Maiden Name: Cannon
Registration Year: 1914
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 1182
Birth Reg
Name: Martha E Donohue
Mother's Maiden Name: Cannon
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 1076
I sent off for both marriage certificates.
Margaret's marriage to John Donohue in June 1912 was in Blackpool in RC Church He was 19 and she was 21. Margaret's father was William Cannon , General Dealer.
John Samuel Roberts and Margaret Donohue, a Widow, marriage in Oct 1917. They were both aged 24 when they married in Blackpool, he was a Fisherman and his father was George Valentine Roberts General Labourer. Margaret's father was William Cannon, a Navvy.teresa
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So is this John Samuel Roberts?
Image gives date of birth as 28 October 1892 which matches the naval record I found - and a close match to the date of birth on the 1939 register which is transcribed as 28 October 1893.
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
John Samuel Roberts
Baptism Date - 8 Feb 1899
Father - George Valentine Roberts
Mother - Lillie Elizabeth Roberts
St Marylebone, WestminsterElaine
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Originally posted by Elaine ..Spain View PostSo is this John Samuel Roberts?
Image gives date of birth as 28 October 1892 which matches the naval record I found - and a close match to the date of birth on the 1939 register which is transcribed as 28 October 1893.
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
John Samuel Roberts
Baptism Date - 8 Feb 1899
Father - George Valentine Roberts
Mother - Lillie Elizabeth Roberts
St Marylebone, Westminsterteresa
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