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AlanC
29-10-15, 13:44
I know nothing of this man. He appears on a marriage certificate dated 3/10/1850 at St George the Martyr, Middx. He his father of the groom but that's all I know and my feeble brain wont work out my options for research.....................can anyone help please.

Elizabeth Herts
29-10-15, 14:31
So this is the marriage:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1623/31280_198129-00176/7519854?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dLMAmarriages%26gss%3dsfs28_ms _db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsln%3dCollar d%26gsln_x%3d0%26msgdy%3d1850%26msgdy_x%3d1%26MSAV %3d1%26uidh%3dho3&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

He is given as a butcher.

PhotoFamily
29-10-15, 15:59
Do you have a DOB for son, Charles?

Val wish Id never started
29-10-15, 16:00
cannot find him except there is a death for a Simon Collard in 1857 Shoreditch but where is he in 1851?

PhotoFamily
29-10-15, 16:03
Can't find Simon in Freedoms nor Apprentice Taxes. Can't find baptism of Charles. And where are they in 1841??

AlanC
29-10-15, 17:50
Charles Collard, the son shows up in 1851 Census living in St Pancras. He states he is 32 years old born Henbury, Gloucestershire and is a Police Constable.

Chrissie Smiff
29-10-15, 18:21
The most likely Charles in 1841 is a labourer, living in Henbury with a Jane Collard (possible sister?) -
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/8978/GLSHO107_357_359-0369/1993447?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2f%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fgss%3dangs-c%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gsfn%3dCharles% 26gsfn_x%3d0%26gsln%3dCollard%26gsln_x%3d0%26msbdy %3d1819%26MSAV%3d1%26uidh%3duo6%26pcat%3d1841UKI%2 6h%3d1993447%26recoff%3d6%2b18%2b19%26db%3duki1841 %26indiv%3d1%26ml_rpos%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

Henbury is a suburb of Bristol, and there is a death in Bristol of a Simon Collard in 1838. Perhaps he was deceased in 1850 and Charles just didn't mention it.

AlanC
29-10-15, 18:40
Thank you Chris, it's something to work with.

Chrissie Smiff
29-10-15, 18:42
I have been following a Simon P Collard who was a shopkeeper in Somerset in 1841 and 1851 (so nearby) but he turned out to be a draper in later census.

Tom Tom
29-10-15, 21:48
The 1851 census for some London boroughs was damaged I think.

Christine in Herts
30-10-15, 23:38
There's a Simon COLLARD, with wife, Rachel, living in Chelsea in 1841 and 1851. He was born about 1780 in Somerset... but he's a journeyman carpenter.

Christine.

Elaine
31-10-15, 23:03
Just had a look at the Gloucestershire baptisms, read only on Anc*

Have found an Emily, James and William all baptised 26 Dec 1813 at Henbury, John Baptised 5 Nov 1814, parents Simon and Mary.

England, Select Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900
Name: Emily Collard
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 5 May 1833
Burial Place: Henbury, St Mary, Gloucestershire, England
Burial Age: 21
Father: Simon

England, Select Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900
Name: Jas Collard
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 3 Jun 1840
Burial Place: Henbury, St Mary, Gloucestershire, England
Burial Age: 30
Father: Simon

Chrissie Smiff
31-10-15, 23:29
I wonder if you rang the GRO they would send you the death cert in Bristol only if he was listed as a butcher?
The reference for that one is Simon Collard - June 1838 - Bristol 11 122.

Chrissie Smiff
31-10-15, 23:41
A possible marriage for Simon Collard is to Mary Woodruff 6th Feb 1804 Bristol.

Chrissie Smiff
31-10-15, 23:48
I can't see the other Simon Collard in Bristol in 1841 either though. He was married to Sophia. So the death could also be him. He only married in 1833, so wouldn't have been married long.

AlanC
01-11-15, 10:31
Thanks ladies, appreciate your help.