McBride - Portaferry

[edward graham]

Researching the McBride family of Portaferry, County Down, Northern Ireland.

Particularly trying to find the birth details for Archibald McBride who married Eliza Tomelty at Downpatrick in 1855. Also any info on Rose McBride, living in High Street, Portaferry on the 1901 census but no details after that.

[Janet H.]

FOR REFERENCE

Name: Archibald Mcbride

Spouse's Name: Eliza Tomelty

Event Date: 12 Dec 1855
Event Place: Downpatrick, Down, Ire
Father's Name: Henry Mcbride

Spouse's Father's Name: James Tomelty
indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70212-4
System Origin: Ireland-VR
GS Film number: 101365
Reference ID: 2:3JCX43H



Citing this Record:
"Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898,"

[Janet H.]

Name: Archibald Mcbride
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1845-1854
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Down
Birth Year: 1822
GS Film number: 1562759
Digital Folder Number: 004650269



Citing this Record:
"United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941,"

[Janet H.]

was Rose McBride his sister or his daugher ?
did they emigrate ?

[edward graham]

Hi Janet,

Thank you for the info, very useful. Rose was Archibald's Daughter born 1877, she is on the 1901 census with Eliza, Sister Sarah and Brother Samuel but by 1911 census disappears, so does Samuel. have tried GRONI / PRONI but can't find any records there. The family were Roman catholic, although Archibald was originally C of I, one of several of my ancestors who turned.

[Elwyn]

If you can’t find the family in Ireland after 1901, then the usual explanation is that they had moved to Scotland, England or further afield. Have you looked for them in the 1911 censuses in Scotland & England? Have you checked the usual emigration records for journeys further afield?

[edward graham]

It's a real puzzler Elwyn, i bought a pile of vouchers for GRONI but have had no success there. I visited PRONI last year and also Downpatrick library where the ladies were extremely helpful but again no success. The records for my family are extremely sketchy, I put this down to them being exceedingly poor and uneducated, my Grandfather for instance, couldn't read or write and I would assume that many of them left school at a very young age to help with the family income. I left Ireland at age 5 and in all the years we lived in England, I never heard my Mother mention Grandparents, Aunts or Uncles, I thought nothing of it at the time but that now puzzles me. In the 1901 census, Eliza is living in High Street Portaferry widowed, with family Samuel age 40, Sarah age 33 and Rose age 24. I now that Sarah married Hugh Savage in Portaferry in 1904, and continued living in High Street. I think it unlikely that, given the age of Eliza and Samuel, that they emigrated, certainly it was never mentioned by my Mother. I will keep digging, eventually, one day, I hope to crack this one.

Sincere thanks for your interest.

Edward

[Elwyn]

I looked at the revaluation records for High St, Portaferry. I see Hugh Savage listed for plot 60 from 1907 to 1918 after which the property was recorded as vacant. Numerous other Savage households in the street.

http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/val12b.htm

[edward graham]

Thank you Elwyn, I hope to be in Portaferry next week so will be scratching about to see what I can find.

[hexham]

update

Thank you Elwyn, I hope to be in Portaferry next week so will be scratching about to see what I can find.

Well that's another year gone and I'm still no further forward with my McBride research. Visited Portaferry for the Portico opening and spoke to several people... no luck, went to Ballyphillip Parish Church.... no luck, I even spoke to the regulars in Dummigans....... still no luck !!!!

This one is proving a hard nut to crack but I'll keep digging.

[Elaine]

I wasn't sure if this was one was in the right registration area, but would this death be worth persuing

First name(s) Samuel
Last name McBride
Age at death 49
Birth year 1861
Registered year 1910
Registered quarter/year Jul - Sep 1910
Registration district Belfast
Volume 1
Page 157
County Antrim, Down
Country Ireland

[hexham]

Elaine, many, many thanks, kind of you to look and much appreciated. That looks very much like my Samuel. I have been searching for ages for my Aunt Sarah McBride who I knew died aged 23 in 1925, tried and tried all over but I was assuming the death was registered either Downpatrick or Newtownards, turns out as she died in the Royal Victoria in Belfast, the death was registered there. Irish genealogy sure ain't easy !!!

[hexham]

Still looking for Rose, b 1877, living in High Street Portaferry on 1901 census, after that she disappears.