Help needed please

[jean banaszak]

Can anyone find Hephzibar Plummer for me please. I have her on Ancestry born 1847 in Luton, she married William Plummer 1869 , she is on the 1871 Census but disapears until her possible death in 1903 age 56 in Luton. On 1881 Census I have William with Jane ? But cannot find a marriage, any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jean

[Guest]

was William by chance a painter ? I cannot find them in 1871

[Guest]

she is with her husband in 1901 ? mistranscribed as Hephbazah living at 64 Wenlock Street Luton

says born Goldington Bedfordshire

[Night Owl]

I've a feeling Hephzibah and Jane are the same person. Same occupation, age and birthplace as Goldington on 1871, 1881, 1901.

[jean banaszak]

Ok, thanks for your help all of you.

Jean

[Guest]

I did wonder that too ,hyer Jackie

[Sylvia C]

The children match all the way through the various censuses ............... although she was not registered at birth or death with a second name of Jane.

Maybe she just preferred a plain name


1871 Census

Name Age
William Plummer 24
Hephzibah Plummer 24
Alfred J Plummer 10 Months

1881 Census

Name Age
William Plummer 33
Jane Plummer 34
Alfred Plummer 10
Horace Plummer 8
Elizabeth Plummer 5
Agnes Plummer 4

1891 Census

Name Age
William Plummer 46
Jane Plummer 45
Alfred Plummer 20
Horace Plummer 18
Lizzie Plummer 15
Agnes Plummer 14
Herbert Plummer 9
Louie Plummer 4

1901 Census

Name Age
William Plummer 54
Hephbazah Plummer 55
Agnes Plummer 24
Herbert Plummer 19


Birth registration was as Epzibah, no second name indicated

Name: Epsibah Buck
Registration Year: 1846
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Bedford
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 6
Page: 21


Is this her baptism???

Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Hepzibah Buck
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 12 Jul 1846
Baptism Place: Goldington,Bedford,England
Father: John Buck
Mother: Barzemia
FHL Film Number: 952408

?????
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: John Buck
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 5 Feb 1843
Marriage Place: Goldington,Bedford,England
Spouse: Barziana Franks
FHL Film Number: 952408


Or are there two Hepzibah Bucks born at about the same time in the same place? I note thta the Public Family trees on ancestry all have her parents as Sarah, and Sarah is shown as Jon Buck's wife on the 1851 Census

[Sylvia C]

????

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Barsenna Franks
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 9 Feb 1817
Baptism Place: Wilden,Bedford,England
Father: James Franks
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 1279189


I wonder if this is Barzemia / Barziana / Barsenna Franks in 1841

Jane Franks 61 <<<<<<<<< this should be James
Bamma Franks 20 <<<<< name corrected to Bazeony Franks
Mary Franks 22
Elizabeth Franks 15
Ann Franks 15
Joseph Franks 13
Caroline Franks 16
Elizabeth Franks 6 Mo
John Franks 3

[Guest]

wow you did some work there Sylvia

[Sylvia C]

:D

It was the kind of puzzle I enjoy!!

[Guest]

let me know when you have a free month you can have a go at some of mine ;D

[Sylvia C]

taking it a little further ..............

1841 Census

Jane Franks 61 <<<<<<<<< this should be James
Bamma Franks 20 <<<<< name corrected to Bazeony Franks
Mary Franks 22
Elizabeth Franks 15
Ann Franks 15
Joseph Franks 13
Caroline Franks 16
Elizabeth Franks 6 Mo
John Franks 3


baptism of Elizabeth shows that Mary Franks was her mother


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Elizabeth Miseltone Franks
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 30 May 1841
Baptism Place: Wilden,Bedford,England
Mother: Mary Franks
FHL Film Number: 1279189



but John was the son of Barsenna ...........

Name: John Pope Franks
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 6 Jul 1838
Baptism Place: Wilden,Bedford,England
Mother: Barsenna Franks
FHL Film Number: 1279189
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Barzemia / Barzania / Barsenna just seems to disappear after those marriage and baptism records

[jean banaszak]

Wow, thankyou for all this information, I am helping D.I.L's mum with the Plummer side, turns out somone else has the same tree, but this will be good for extra info not on there.

Thanks again
Jean

[Sylvia C]

Jean ............


you are very welcome.

[Sylvia C]

Val ...........


:D

you can send me some if you want ............... I'm supposed to be a lady of leisure these days, ie retired :D

[Guest]

was joking you really would not want to know ,even I dont

[Sylvia C]

like some of mine then?

I swear there is an alien space ship that has circled the earth for hundreds of years, dropping off and picking up our ancestors at random

It's the only reason I can find for the ones who appear fully grown on their wedding day, or disappear after the first child is born until they return to die

[Guest]

Sylvia have you put them on here ? I love a challenge

[Sylvia C]

Val ..........

I have tried with some of them, but they still remain lost!

Maybe I should resurrect another one some time