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05-06-15, 11:58
I am looking for any information on the above.
All I know is that he worked on a railway in India, had three children (1916, 1917 and 1918) then brought them and his wife? (can't find a marriage record) to Reading in the 1930s. As far as I know he then returned, alone, to India.
I guess he had some railway employment in England before he went to India. I guess he would have been borne around 1880. I guess he would have left the UK after 1900.
I am, at present, looking through 1901 census; lots of pages as I have no idea where he was borne.

Elaine ..Spain
05-06-15, 12:13
Ian, can you give the names of the three children - providing they are deceased. Do you have copies of their birth certificates?

07-06-15, 19:47
Hi Elaine,
I have not asked for birth certificates as yet.
Elizabeth Wood, later Pickup then Cowley. DOB 1916
James Joseph Wood (my father) DOB 1917
George Wood DOB 1918
My aunt had a baby that died in infancy. So I am the only grandson from that line.
All now deceased. All born at St Thomas in Bombay.
I believe my grandmother was May Isobel Wood. Maiden name Lipersonne?

Elaine ..Spain
07-06-15, 20:05
Looking at the British India Office records on Findmypast for a possible marriage, but nothing showing.

Worth bearing in mind these name variants which have come up as I searched - La Personne / La Persoune / Lapersonne

Have you tried contacting the India Office British Library who seem to hold Railway employment records?

Elaine ..Spain
07-06-15, 20:09
The family are on the Incoming passenger lists on Ancestry -

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 6 Jun 1934
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Elysia
Search Ship Database: Search for the Elysia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 128224

Names listed on the passenger list are:
William Wood
Masie Wood
Elizabeth Ann Wood
James Joseph Wood
George Robert Wood
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1518/30807_A001038-00043/29065462?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.u k%2f%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3findiv%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26db%3dBT 26%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26msT%3d1%26gss %3dangs-d%26gsfn%3djames%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dwood%26gsln _x%3d1%26msbdy%3d1917%26msbdy_x%3d1%26dbOnly%3d_F0 005868%257c_F0005868_x%252c_F00061E6%257c_F00061E6 _x%252c_F00061E7%257c_F00061E7_x%26uidh%3dpb3%26ms bdp%3d1%26pcat%3d40%26fh%3d14%26h%3d29065462%26rec off%3d%26ml_rpos%3d15&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

Elaine ..Spain
07-06-15, 20:13
On the passenger listing William's age is recorded as 49, therefore born c1885

Elaine ..Spain
07-06-15, 20:54
On the incoming passenger list he gives his address as 10 Ardyche Street, Stockport, Cheshire. - occupation Signal Inspector.

I've been trying to follow up this one -
John William Wood born 1884 Cheshire, occ. Engineer fitter .. but not getting anywhere with him after 1911.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&MS_AdvCB=1&db=1911England&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=2&gss=angs-d&gsfn=william&gsfn_x=1&gsln=wood&gsln_x=1&msbdy=1885&msbdy_x=1&msbpn__ftp=Cheshire%2c+England&msbpn=5257&msbpn_PInfo=7-%7c0%7c0%7c3257%7c3251%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c5257%7c0%7c0% 7c&msbpn_x=XO&msbpn__ftp_x=1&dbOnly=_F0006301%7c_F0006301_x%2c_F0005DFC%7c_F000 5DFC_x%2c_83004005%7c_83004005_x%2c_83004006%7c_83 004006_x%2c_F0006866%7c_F0006866_x%2c_F0006867%7c_ F0006867_x%2c_F0005DFD%7c_F0005DFD_x%2c_F0006300%7 c_F0006300_x%2c_F000686E%7c_F000686E_x%2c_F800686D %7c_F800686D_x&uidh=pb3&msbdp=2&pcat=UKICEN&fh=0&h=5680571&recoff=&ml_rpos=1

07-06-15, 22:22
If it helps any - 1911 census - from the image and on FMP his birthplace is Willaston, Cheshire not Wollaston.

07-06-15, 22:31
On that 1911 census there is also a Harold James Wood b Thames Ditton a boarder with John William.

Here they are both with their parents on 1901 census:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk//cgi-bin/sse.dll?gss=angs-c&new=1&rank=1&gsfn=john+william&gsln=wood&msbdy=1885&msbdy_x=1&msbdp=2&msbpn__ftp=Wollaston%2c+Cheshire%2c+England&msrpn__ftp=Reading%2c+Berkshire%2c+England&msrpn=82142&msrpn_PInfo=8-%7c0%7c0%7c3257%7c3251%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c5254%7c82142% 7c0%7c&_83004002_x=1&cpxt=1&cp=11&MSAV=1&uidh=5u8&pcat=CEN_1900&h=16913101&db=uki1901&indiv=1&ml_rpos=2

John William born Crewe Cheshire, and brother Harold b Thames Ditton, Surrey. Parents John and Amelia Wood.

Just need to know if we have the right John William. Marriage cert needed here I think :)

Elaine ..Spain
08-06-15, 06:59
Just need to know if we have the right John William. Marriage cert needed here I think :)

Having trouble finding a possible marriage! :(

08-06-15, 09:39
Yes, me too. Perhaps they never married?
I searched the India records on FMP and zilch.
The children's birth certs should give mother's maiden name.
If he married somewhere in UK between 1911 and 1916 her mn will help nail him.
He could be William - as in the passenger list, John William or just John Wood/Woods :(

08-06-15, 10:10
There is a Mr W Wood (Mechanic) b 1883 Liverpool outward to Calcutta 28 Apr 1913 1st class City Line - City of Lincoln

There is a Mr and Mrs W Wood (Mechanic) Liverpool outward to Calcutta 26 May 1913 2nd class City Line - City of Poona
- both born 1887

08-06-15, 10:20
there is one other :
Mr and Mrs W J Wood - London to Bombay 2 Oct 1915
No other info and line drawn through their name on original Pass List

08-06-15, 10:55
Thanks for your help, wonderful!!

My mother did not get on with my paternal grandmother so I only remember seeing her 4 times in my life, twice she saw and spoke to me on a bus I must have been about 11, then I saw her at my father's funeral. I worked for British Gas and I called at a house to find my grandmother was the occupant. She recognised me.
My grandfather was not discussed but my mother gave me the names of my paternal grandparents and said that my grandfather "settled the family" then returned to India.
I found the births on find my past and contacted British library for the other details. They could find no marriage details for my grand parents.

09-06-15, 08:28
Many thanks to you all. I was totally stuck on this one.
My grandmother was Indian so I guess they would have been married in India, no record of a marriage at British Library.
I am using find my past and wonder if I would do better with Ancestry. Any views?
Once again many, many thanks
Ian Wood

Elaine ..Spain
09-06-15, 08:56
Personally I would use FMP for India records.

One of our members Clematised (Edna) seems to know quite a bit about India records - I'll send her a message and ask her to read this thread to see if she can help.

09-06-15, 17:23
Personally I would use FMP for India records.

One of our members Clematised (Edna) seems to know quite a bit about India records - I'll send her a message and ask her to read this thread to see if she can help.

I have just got home but off out again soon but will check in later tonight to see what if anything, I can do


10-06-15, 16:36
Sorry it has taken me a while to get back to you but I have been having a look for your names and so far not come up with anything helpful so you can join the India List here http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IND/INDIA.html and join by clicking on this link
INDIA-L-request@rootsweb.com adding the word Subscribe nothing else then once you have received notifications you can send them a message asking for the information you need, there are lots of knowledgeable people there who may be able to help you.

Good Luck