Missing in 1861

[Janet in Yorkshire]

Elizabeth Scrivener (married) born Beswick East Yorkshire c1832/3

Husband John home alone in Reighton E Yorks in 1861

(I think there could have been missing children too as John & Elizabeth were recorded as married in the 1851 census returns.)

In 1851 & 1871 John & Eliz were in Reighton, 1881 in Bridlington, 1891 in Grindale and 1901 in Boynton - all these places are in the Bridlington area. They were both deceased by 1911.

I'm anxious to find Elizabeth and any possibilities for children born 1851 to 1861. I have 3 children (Peter, Mary & George) born post 1861.

Jay

[Night Owl]

I've tried various combinations for 1861 and haven't managed to find anything. However have you seen these?

Several children of John and Elizabeth Scrivener, although I don't know whether they are yours. Could be worth following up

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Transcriptions/ERY/ReightonBaptisms1850-1905.html

Grace 1853
John 1856
Jemmison 1858
William 1862
Peter 1865
Mary 1867
George Pashby 1872

[Janet in Yorkshire]

Ooooooh, thanks Jackie. Never thought to look on Genuki - Reighton bp never used to be on there.

Jameson will be theirs I'm sure, as Jameson was Elizabeth's maiden name, and I know about Peter, Mary & George Pashby (1871 & 1881 census)

Jay

[Night Owl]

Jameson looks much better than Jemmison

So is the marriage in Q/E March 1851 (John Scrivner)?

[Janet in Yorkshire]

Yes.
I don't have any certs for this line - as it's a "fun" tree I'm doing for my cousin, who's not well at the moment, I'm not going to buy anything. I'm seeing how far I get using census, and then I'll look for hatches, matches and despatches next time I go to the local record office and take copies of the PR entries.

Jay

[Night Owl]

There are some more Reighton transcriptions here

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS...ex.html#Church Records

[Janet in Yorkshire]

Thanks for that, Jackie.

I have rellies in Reighton and combed the parish records at the record office 25+ years ago. (In those days you got the actual registers themselves, complete with little notes the vicar had popped in for safe keeping, and no white gloves.) It's interesting starting research all over again for someone else and revisiting several parishes. I'm finding many of the neighbours on census returns are old friends to me. My cousin shares his maternal line with me; I'm now working on his paternal line and discovering relatives living in the same villages at the same time as ancestors I know about.

Will have to investigate Genuki for some of the other neighbouring villages to see what else has been added since I last visited, so thanks for that tip.

Jay

[Janet in Yorkshire]

So, Grace (1853) John (1856) and Jameson (1858) are also missing, as well as their mother Elizabeth.
Perhaps they're visiting a relative and have been recorded with the wrong surname???

Jay

[Darksecretz]

Jay

have you been through the 1861 cens for Reighton?

[Janet in Yorkshire]

Thanks for your suggestion, Julie.
I've been through the transcription for the whole of Reighton, as well as trying individual forenames, minus a surname.
The whole family group is missing - Elizabeth, Grace, John & Jam(i)eson. I've found Elizabeth's mother living in nearby Flamborough in 1861, but none of them were with her:(
I suppose now I've managed to find out what children the couple had, it doesn't really matter if I can't find them in 1861.

I spent last night chasing up the children - William (b1862) is lost in 1881;Peter has vanished post his 1887 marriage and George is missing in 1911.
Due to the snow, my cousin is no longer visiting tomorrow, so I guess I've now got another week to try and find them!

Jay

[Janet in Yorkshire]

According to trees on Ancestry, Peter married in 1887 and very soon afterwards he & his bride set sail for Australia.

Jay

[Darksecretz]

According to trees on Ancestry, Peter married in 1887 and very soon afterwards he & his bride set sail for Australia.

Jay

ooh so there might be an aussie branch then?