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    I'm trying to find John Morris in the 1881 census. He married my grandmother in November 1881 and died before 1891. From his marriage certificate, I know he was born around 1847 (he was 34) and, although he married in Bristol, was living in Liverpool. His father, William, had been a farmer but was deceased at the time of marriage. John's occupation was given as 'Licensed victualler'.

    With the information I have, I've searched for him in the 1881 census but have been unsuccesful. Can anybody see him?
    Betty

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    where was he born? the only Licensed Victualler I can find born about the right time is 1848 Chatham Kent but he is married? unless of course he had a different occupation then
    Last edited by Guest; 21-12-14, 16:31.

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    • #3
      I don't know where he was born
      Betty

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      • #4
        have you got him or his father on any census records at all

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        • #5
          I know this sounds daft but what was his wifes name ? as I want to work backwards
          did it happen to be either a Mary Ann or Eliza ?
          Last edited by Guest; 21-12-14, 18:20.

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          • #6
            I don't have any information on his father apart from what the marriage certificate gives me. His wife was Eliza.
            Betty

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            • #7
              Betty - have you found the family in a later census? Or his wife in the 1881? Would you give links please?

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              • #9
                John and Eliza were never on a census together. He had died by 1891
                Betty

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                • #10
                  I have found in 1881 a John Morris single born abt 1850 Montgomery Montgomeryshire Wales
                  a Public House Manager living in The Derby ,which I assume is the Pub Name 318 Derby Road Bootle Cum Lineacre West Derby Lancashire
                  Last edited by Guest; 21-12-14, 20:45.

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                  • #11
                    Thanks, Val. I'll look into this
                    Betty

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                    • #12
                      think I have found his family in 1871
                      William Morris born abt 1806 a Farmer
                      Wife Eleanor born abt 1804
                      John born abt 1848
                      all born in Montgomery Montgomeryshire
                      living in
                      Ceunaut, Garthbeibio, Llanfyllin, Montgomeryshire, Wales

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                      • #13
                        Yes this could be him
                        Betty

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                        • #14
                          may be Williams death
                          William Morris
                          Birth Year 1806
                          age 67
                          Dec Quarter 1873
                          11B
                          158
                          Llanfyllin
                          County Montgomeryshire

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                          • #15
                            Where & when were John & Eliza's children born?

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                            • #16
                              I think I have them in 1851 as well
                              Betty

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                              • #17
                                I don't know of any children born to John and Eliza. Eliza remarried after John's death. I just wanted to find out more about John
                                Betty

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                                • #18
                                  Originally posted by pinkivory View Post
                                  I don't know of any children born to John and Eliza. Eliza remarried after John's death. I just wanted to find out more about John
                                  Darn, children may have given us a clue where to go looking for John's DC. Where was Eliza living in 1891?

                                  Have you found her second marriage?
                                  Last edited by PhotoFamily; 21-12-14, 21:12.

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                                  • #19
                                    Was living in Sunniside in Durham but her first child to second marriage was born in Leigh in Lancashire
                                    Betty

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                                    • #20
                                      Originally posted by Val wish Id never started View Post
                                      I have found in 1881 a John Morris single born abt 1850 Montgomery Montgomeryshire Wales
                                      a Public House Manager living in The Derby ,which I assume is the Pub Name 318 Derby Road Bootle Cum Lineacre West Derby Lancashire
                                      Just to clear up this address as quoted above as I grew up in and around Derby Road, Bootle, it is not a part of West Derby but the BMDs at the time were the West Derby registration district, Derby Road runs all the way to Liverpool from Bootle and was very close to the Docks. There was a pub called the Derby Arms in Strand Road close by, still standing but boarded up I cant remember another of that name in my childhood.

                                      Edna

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