1861 lookup please

[LeicestershireLass]

Trying to find Samuel & Harriet Griffin, both born c1841.

He was born Sneinton, Nottinghamshire / occupation Shoe maker (cordwainer)

She was born Lutterworth, Leicestershire. They married in 1859, Nottingham.

In 1871 they're living in Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, however I've found a burial in Leicester, March 1861, for their 11 month old son Thomas, abode: Blackfriars St. Leic.

Any help to find them in 1861 appreciated.

Update: Thomas's birth registered Q2 1860 Radford, Notts.

[Guest]

cannot find them Lass , will have another look later

[Elaine]

Found a baptism for a Thomas to Samuel and Harriett Griffin Byron Street Sneinton, Occ smith 10th April 1860

Marriage was at St Mary 3 Oct 1859

[LeicestershireLass]

thanks Elaine .... were there 2 Samuels born in that area at around the same time?

[Elaine]

The other one married Elizabeth Taylor, found him 1861 and he wasn't a smith, can't remember now but you should find him c1837. The only other I would say your Samuel's father at a guess, marrying Martha Smith St Mary 1832 3 Sep...just the 3 marriages

Just had a look at baptisms and the ones listed are for all 3 couples. Thomas and Martha are in Byron Street at one point and the children on the census forms for Thomas and Harriet are there

Em, Eliza and Martha are baptised 14 Oct 1870
Henry 8th May 1871
All Windmill Lane Occ Corwainer

[Elaine]

Samuel and Martha

Mary 17 Feb 1833 Woolpack Lane Occ Cordwainer St Mary Sneinton
Samuel 2 Aug 1840 Harold Hill St Stephen Sneinton
Mary 21 Mar 1847 Byron Street St Stephen
Eliza 22 Apr 1849 Byron Street St Stephen

Samuel and Harriett's children from the above list were all St Stephen, but I can't find them 1861

[Elaine]

Burials

Mary 6m Byron Street 11 Apr 1847
Martha age 65 12 Mar Colwick Street

[LeicestershireLass]

wow ... thanks Elaine for some very useful info - I couldn't find any of the baptisms or Samuel & Martha's marriage.

Occ smith 10th April 1860

It seems an odd transition from smith to cordwainer/shoe maker ??

[Elaine]

Strange but has to be the family, if you find any marriages etc, just give me a shout and I can have a look in Notts bits I have

[LeicestershireLass]

Martha age 65 12 Mar Colwick Street

? was she buried in 1865 ? age 65 ?
Her birth year varies on 1841-1861 censuses e.g. 1816, 1812, 1814

[LeicestershireLass]

Strange but has to be the family, if you find any marriages etc, just give me a shout and I can have a look in Notts bits I have

thanks for your kind offer ... are you able to find the parents of Samuel (born 1812-1816) and Martha (born same year range) ?

Did Samuel (1812-16) die Q3 1855 reg'd Radford?

[Elaine]

Ooh sorry about Martha

Age 57 in 1865

Only baptism
Samuel Moxon Griffin 6 Nov 1809 St Mary to John and Hannah

there are loads of Martha Smith's but there is one

Martha to George and Mary 20 Jun 1810 St Mary

Nothing for the other Samuel

[LeicestershireLass]

thanks again for your help Elaine ... are you able to find John and Hannah's marriage? please

[Elaine]

Married Hannah Moxon St Nicholas 30 Nov 1808, howzat!

[LeicestershireLass]

great ... thanks Elaine