Great great grandmother Laura

[wendythomas]

Hi,I would love some information about my great great grandmother Laura Griffith of Hendy,Sarn Meillteyrn near Pwllheli Gwynedd. She married John Griffiths of Meillteyrn on the 18th ofAugust 1857 in the parish of Denio. She was Jones before she married and was born at Glanmorfa or Glanmorfa Bach Abererch near Pwllheli her father was Evan Jones.I would like to find out her mother's name and if she had any siblings and where they lived before 1860

[wendythomas]

Her date of birth was 1836

[margaretmarch]

Welcome to the Forum.

Have you got a subscription to Ancestry or Find My Past? You could look for her on either of these sites in the 1841 and 1851 censuses which will hopefully show her living with her parents.

Her birth is too early for the Statutory Birth registers so it could only be found in the parish registers. You could look on Familyserach.org which is a free site for her baptism/christening.

What is her father's occupation on the marriage certificate - this would help to identify her in the censuses.

Margaret

[margaretmarch]

Is this her with husband John in 1881?

Laura Griffith
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Griffith
Gender: Female
Where born: Abererch, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Meyllteyrn
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales
Street address: Hendy
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Farmers Wife
Registration district: Pwllheli
Sub-registration district: Aberdaron
Name
John Griffith 60
Laura Griffith 45
Laura Griffith 14
William Griffith 12
Evan Griffith 9
Sarah Griffith 6
Eliza Griffith 2

[margaretmarch]

Who are the witnesses on the marriage certificate?

I'm having trouble finding anything obvious on the 1841 / 51 censuses.

Margaret

[AlanC]

Welcome to the Forum Wendy.
In 1841 Census she is with Family in Aber Erch, Criccieth, Pwllheli.
Father, Hugh Jones age 40....an ag. Lab.
Mother, Laura age 35
Robert age 11
Laura age 8
Eunock age 3

Census ref; Class: HO107; Piece: 1390; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Aber Erch; County: Caernarvonshire; Enumeration District: 18; Folio: 22; Page: 11; Line: 18; GSU roll: 464314.

[AlanC]

In 1851 Census, I don't think they have moved far. Still in same area but another son, Hugh aged 7 has been added. In this instance, Mother & daughter have the first name of Lowry and I'm assuming it is Welsh for Laura?
Census Ref; HO107/2513/110/4.

[wendythomas]

Her father was a labourer,I do not have a subscription to Ancestry or Find My Past.

[wendythomas]

This is not them,her father was called Evan Jones.

[wendythomas]

She lived with her family at Sarn Meillteyrn from 1860 until she died there in 1915 it's before 1860 I would like to find out.

[wendythomas]

The witnesses were John Jones and Elizabeth Jones.

[bcbrit]

Hi Wendy,

This is a possible from the 1851 census

HO 107 Piece 2513 Folio 554 Page 19

Llanystyndy, Caernovonshire

Evan Jones 47 farmer of 120 acres
Catherine 42 or 47
Henry 19
Margaret 17
Laura 14 b. Llanystyndy, Caernonshire - registration district Pwllhel
Thomas H 11
Evan 9
Catherine 7
Owen 3
John 7 months

I haven't found them in the 1841 yet. Will look again tomorrow.

bcbrit

[bcbrit]

1841 Census

HO107 Piece 1391 Folio 8 Page 7
Llan ysty dwy, Caernarvonshire

Evan Jones 35 Farmer
Margaret 30
Henry 9
Margaret 7
Laury 4
Thomas 2

bcbrit

[margaretmarch]

1841 Census

HO107 Piece 1391 Folio 8 Page 7
Llan ysty dwy, Caernarvonshire

Evan Jones 35 Farmer
Margaret 30
Henry 9
Margaret 7
Laury 4
Thomas 2

bcbrit

Those two look quite likely I would say.

Margaret

[wendythomas]

I just don't know if it is the correct family,on Laura's wedding certificate it says that her father was a labourer,he wouldn't havebeen a labourer if he farmed 120 acres this is very puzzling.

[wendythomas]

I have looked up a welsh book I have about family trees, this is not our family,the Laura in this family died in 1878,our Laura died in1915.

[margaretmarch]

I just don't know if it is the correct family,on Laura's wedding certificate it says that her father was a labourer,he wouldn't havebeen a labourer if he farmed 120 acres this is very puzzling.

That record for Evan as a farmer was for 1841 and in those days people's fortunes could change very quickly. If farming was all he knew then he would probably be classed as a labourer in later life.
I don't know what you book is but that may not be correct either!
Margaret