John Douglas LIGHTBODY 1899-1918 (living relatives search)

[Christine in Herts]

I had the Scotlands People newsletter-email today and it included this link:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/civilian-military-dignitaries-attend-memorial-3212688

I did a quick thread-search and couldn't see that anyone else had picked up on it, here.

It looks like the sort of puzzle that FTF folks are good at solving... :D

If you have trouble following the link, I'll post some more info from it.

[margaretmarch]

I've sent an email to the lady who has been doing the tree to see if she will post here or give me details to post.
Margaret

[jasperaliceuk]

Hi all - I'm Sue, the lady entrusted with trying to track down information on J D Lightbody and any living relatives!

Briefly, I got involved, as my step dad - an ex Grenadier musician - is an honorary member of the Belgian town band of Schelderwindeke, the town commemorating the pilot near where he was shot down in WW1. The organising Belgians told him their plans and he is raising a band from the UK to play at the ceremony in Belgium in November, and at a concert there. Hearing that they were trying to find more info on the pilot, and particularly a photo, I sort of got volunteered! He knew I spend an inordinate amount of time on my own tree and in researching a local graveyard!

So...having found the right Lightbody line - its not the famous baking Lightbody's of Hamilton - I've established his siblings and some descendants. Three people have contacted me through the Lightbody Facebook group - all distant cousins - so that is encouraging. But so far, nobody from Hamilton, or Scotland in general, which has surprised me. Two ladies are in South Africa.


I have someone with RAF contacts who is going to pursue his military records - fingers crossed there.

Both Facebook and Twitter have had posts, ScotlandsPeople, Ancestry and the Lightbody FB Group. I've also posted on Twitter to one of the Philadelphia newspapers as one brother emigrated.

So, if anyone has any other bright ideas or contacts I would be supremely grateful! The more heads the better.

So that's it in a nutshell.

Bit late now but I'll give a brief run down of the tree I have tomorrow.

Thanks for your interest.

Sue

[Elaine ..Spain]

Hi Sue, welcome to the forum.
Sounds like the sort of thing that our members enjoy helping with.
When you do give a run down of the tree, can I just mention that we do not allow the names of living people to be posted on the forum - so if anyone needs further information from you they will contact you via personal message (PM).

[jasperaliceuk]

Thanks Elaine - don't worry - it'll only be the generations long since gone! They might jog someone's memory. The Lanarkshire FHS are also on the case!

Sue

[annswabey]

This might well be his record, which you can download from the National Archives website for £3.30 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/r...ficers-ww1.htm

Name Lightbody, John Douglas
Date of Birth: 30 October 1899
AIR 76/299/189

There's also a record for an Airman of that name, too, but not available online.

These records wouldn't help with tracing relatives forwards, though

[jasperaliceuk]

Thanks - the Belgians forwarded me the National Archive records so I do have those!
Sue

[jasperaliceuk]

James Lightbody b 1814 m Margaret b 1818


Son: Thomas Lightbody b 1834 m Christina b 1838


Their children:
James b 1860
Margaret b 1862
John Douglas b 1865
Christina b 1868
Thomas b 1871
Mary b 1873
Jeannie D b 1878
Thomas b 1875




John Douglas b 1865 m Marjory Clark b 1869


Their children :


Grace J C b 1893 d 1953 - married ? Clark
Christina b 1894
Thomas b 1896 d 1898
Archibald b 1898 d 1903
JOHN DOUGLAS b 1899 d 1918 Melle Belgium
Duncan b 1902 d 1969 Philadelphia USA
James b 1904
George 1907


Military and personal details known:


Lived at Ardenlee, Portland Park, Hamilton, Scotland


Attended Hamilton Grammar School


From his military records:
Was an apprentice draughtsman for a company (can’t read name!) Park Road, Motherwell.


Joined RAF Nov 1917 - 204 squadron
Went missing 4.11.1918 flying his Sopwith Camel “last seen after combat over Melle”


Casualty Card report of 8.3.20 states “The above named officer was reported Missing 4th November 1918. This death has now been accepted for official purposes as having occurred on or since that date”


Was an accomplished Flying Ace - gaining 5 victories in the short time that he flew.

[jasperaliceuk]

Glad to report that we have now found a nephew of John Douglas, living in the USA. Still, however, no-one from this side of the pond!

Sue

[margaretmarch]

Great work!
Margaret

[Christine in Herts]

Glad to report that we have now found a nephew of John Douglas, living in the USA. Still, however, no-one from this side of the pond!

Sue

That's good news. Is the nephew aware of anyone in the UK?

Christine

[jasperaliceuk]

That's good news. Is the nephew aware of anyone in the UK?

Christine

Not as far as I know - still pursuing enquries with his daughter.

Sue

[garstonite]

Might be nothing at all - but we have a Lightbody Street here in Liverpool named after a Scottish Linen Merchant , William Lightbody who came here in 1750`s ..

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

but there is this man John Robert Thomas Lightbody - a commercial Traveller ( presumably from Scotland who came to see family - and stayed ...maybe if you could check out where he was born ??

Baptism: 24 Apr 1904 Holy Trinity, Wavertree, Lancashire, England
Archibald Lightbody - [Child] of John Robert Thomas Lightbody & Bertha
Born: 20 Feb 1904
Abode: 21 Brereton Avenue
Occupation: Commercial Traveller
Baptised by: G. W. Williams

Baptism: 23 Sep 1905 Holy Trinity, Wavertree, Lancashire, England
William Roy MacClive Lightbody - [Child] of John Robert Thomas Lightbody & Bertha
Born: 5 Aug 1905
Abode: 21 Brereton Avenue
Occupation: Commercial Traveller
Baptised by: G. W. Williams

if you find a connection -there are 59 Lightbody records on 192.com here in Liverpool ...the family originally settled in Edge Hill ....
probably a red herring - but you never know ??
good luck

[garstonite]

just a quick request ...what does RELICT mean on this record ??
Burial: 21 Jan 1801 St James, Toxteth, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Lightbody - relict of Adam Lightbody, Gentleman
never seen that before on a record ......I know it`s irrelevant to this thread , but I am curious ...
I will delete this post if requested

added...the above post regarding John Robert Thomas Lightbody and Bertha
they married in Liverpool in 1900 and her maiden name was Boyle

[JudithM]

relict = widow

[garstonite]

relict = widow

Thanks Judith ...new one on me ...we learn something new everyday
cheers
allan

[jasperaliceuk]

Thanks for that Garstonite - I don't think there is a connection - there are several Lightbody families, including the famous Lightbody Bakers. I think the family I am looking at were Grocers - I can't say I've seen any textile workers but I wouldn't totally discount it. If I can I'll have a dig around.

The relict thing was a new one on me too until last year. I am documenting a graveyard and it was on one of the headstones.

Sue