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julip
02-04-14, 10:14
Could anyone help find an immigration for Allan Lorraine Purves b 1833 Berwick, Northumberland ,England . Died 1912 in New York . He married Elizabeth Howe Sutherland b 1832 ,Berwick ,Northumberland, England in June 1857, Berwick, Northumberland ,England . Their first child Barbara was b Dec 1857 in New York . So must have travelled between June and Dec.1857. Looking also for ship Elizabeth and two children Barbara and James b 1859 in New York were on , coming back to stay with her parents in Berwick, census 1861. It appears she had William in Dec 1860 in Berwick. Also her second trip back to USA . A fourth child Jane was b 1864 in New York .Have tried all combinations of names .
Would really appreciate any help on this one .
EP

AntonyM
02-04-14, 11:04
She is listed as E H Purves arriving in NY on 16/9/1871 on the ship Anglia with Barbara (13) and Jean (7) - this is on Ancestry and on Castle Garden (http://www.castlegarden.org/searcher.php). Can't immediately see anything earlier.

julip
02-04-14, 14:34
Anthony ,
I did find this one , but it makes it appear she had come back to Britain again, and this was her going home again ,so I wasn`t sure about it.I am pretty sure it was just Allan Lorraine Purves ,and Elizabeth the first time in 1857, without any children, Barbara their first b New York . The names are not that common you would think they would come up somewhere !
Thanks for taking the time to look .
EP

Elaine
03-04-14, 22:54
Found one

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Elizh Purvis
Arrival Date: 2 Oct 1861
Birth Date: abt 1833
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Place of Origin: Ireland
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: William Tapscott

with Barbara James William and Mary Sutherland

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7488/NYM237_215-0044/4507121?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3frank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26ms T%3d1%26gss%3dangs-c%26gsfn%3delizabeth%26gsln%3dpurves%26msbdy%3d183 2%26msbpn__ftp%3dNew%2bYork%252c%2bUSA%26msbpn%3d3 5%26msbpn_PInfo%3d5-%257c0%257c1652393%257c0%257c2%257c3244%257c35%257 c0%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c%26msapn__ftp%3dNew%2bYor k%252c%2bUSA%26msapn%3d35%26msapn_PInfo%3d5-%257c0%257c1652393%257c0%257c2%257c3244%257c35%257 c0%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c%26cpxt%3d1%26uidh%3daq7% 26msbdp%3d2%26cp%3d12%26pcat%3dIMG_PASSLISTS%26h%3 d4507121%26recoff%3d8%2b9%26db%3dnypl%26indiv%3d1% 26ml_rpos%3d37&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord


and is this your man?

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Allen Purves
Arrival Date: 27 Mar 1869
Birth Date: C 1833
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Place of Origin: Scotland
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland and Moville, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Europa

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7488/NYM237_307-0404/6908248?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk %2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3frank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26ms T%3d1%26gss%3dangs-c%26gsfn%3dallen%26gsln%3dpurves%26cpxt%3d1%26uidh %3daq7%26msbdp%3d2%26cp%3d12%26pcat%3dIMG_PASSLIST S%26h%3d6908248%26recoff%3d8%2b9%26db%3dnypl%26ind iv%3d1%26ml_rpos%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord

julip
04-04-14, 07:40
Elaine ,
The 1861 census looks as though it is the right one ,slight problem with the nationality (Irish),but on various census forms Elizabeth is listed as Scottish, and English ! The names and ages match exactly.The 1869 census I am still thinking about . Really need to find incoming lists to see if Allan came over on his own , but they are very elusive .
Many thanks Elaine for your help.
EP